Maybe it's time for a casual "strike" if not complete departure.

[Volgia]

I realize you can't remember everyone's views over hundreds of posts, but I'm not personally angry about rewards in the slightest. I am disputing the claim that anyone can do savage content if they simply try hard enough. It isn't true.

The funny thing about the "skill issue" statement, usually used as an intended insult, is that it's often accurate. I do not have the skill to complete savage on-cycle, and there is absolutely nothing I can do about that. Just as there was a limit to how fast I could run the 800, there's a limit to how fast I can process-recall-react in a video game. Why is this hard to understand?

I'll just have to agree to disagree here, because unless you have some disability, extremes and savage mechanics aren't to dissimilar from normal trials and raids. Some of them don't telegraph, some of them have different timings, but it's hard to limit yourself like you would be physically limited to do any physical sport. This is a matter of skill and can be learned.

If you don't want to learn, or find it not worth your time that's completely fine. Also, if you're not angry about these changes then I am not championing you to leave, I want people who demand every reward and every piece of content be tailored to them or else removed to go away. It's a frustrating conversation we've been having for years.

[Lilapop]

I'll just have to agree to disagree here, because unless you have some disability, extremes and savage mechanics aren't to dissimilar from normal trials and raids. Some of them don't telegraph, some of them have different timings, but it's hard to limit yourself like you would be physically limited to do any physical sport. This is a matter of skill and can be learned.

If you don't want to learn, or find it not worth your time that's completely fine. Also, if you're not angry about these changes then I am not championing you to leave, I want people who demand every reward and every piece of content be tailored to them or else removed to go away. It's a frustrating conversation we've been having for years.

Who demands this? Literally who?

[Volgia]

Who demands this? Literally who?

It's literally what this thread is about.

There's also the matter that most hardcore players don't WANT casuals "getting good" at the content at all, there isn't some major outreach and up-lifting program going on here, quite the opposite actually as we literally just saw with Chaotic. You will, at most, find individuals that are willing to help, like so:

With multiple videos and guides on how to play your job for optimal rotations, Hector guides detailing every mechanic of every fight, POVs of clears, discords where people discuss and help answer questions, there is a monumental amount of resources for people to get better at playing this game.

Just an aside it's kind of funny the way you put it, like an outreach program for troubled casuals.

[Lilapop]

It's literally what this thread is about.

I don't think you got that right.

[Mawlzy]

I'll just have to agree to disagree here, because unless you have some disability, extremes and savage mechanics aren't to dissimilar from normal trials and raids. Some of them don't telegraph, some of them have different timings, but it's hard to limit yourself like you would be physically limited to do any physical sport. This is a matter of skill and can be learned.

Get back to me when you can unscramble a Rubik's cube in 3.13s.