Why do casual players seem entitled to cosmetic items added in game?

[TaleraRistain]

2) the reward is no more “casual” than it is “hardcore”. You specifically use the analogy “what if BIS was locked behind IS” directly implying that this is a casual reward locked behind high end as your analogy is the reverse. What makes this a “casual” reward? How do you determine what rewards low effort casual only players intrinsically have the right to? What if this reward was instead say a reward for 10/10/10 in Bozja. That’s all casual content but it’s a long grind people wouldn’t like. How do you determine as a playerbase wide arrangement of who is intrinsically entitled to what based on what content. It feels like most of these complaints are proxy complaints for lack of content

Because the trend for hairstyles is that they've come from more accessible content. This could be a wide spectrum on the more accessible range of content since we see them them in Gold Saucer, alliance raids, exploratory content, etc. And the trend with that more accessible content is that it has that longer shelf like Kaurhz has mentioned.

With this hairstyle, they're doing a complete 180 on that trend. The content isn't accessible, and there aren't things in the game itself that will keep people running it in spite of that inaccessibility. And many in this thread are giving their feedback about that sudden change in trends.

[Lilapop]

I craft my own gear/consumables, thank you very much.

I'm not complaining about crafters/gatherers. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy in casual players complaining about having to buy items from people who raid because the majority of those raiders are pumping the money back into the pockets of more casual players.

When has this ever been a complaint?

[Lilapop]

If the option isn't there, then even fewer people will use it. The fact that there are several people crying about being unable to use it because it's too costly/hard to get is evidence that more people would wear it, IF THEY COULD. However, they can't, which means the people who have worked for it will probably enjoy having a hairstyle that not everyone can get (hence, unique).

What you said in no way invalidates what I said at all? Odd choice to gatekeep something you also don't appear to be using, for some reason, too.

[Lilapop]

I'm not a hardcore player, but why are people (likely casuals) using hardcore players as a punching bag for what's wrong at the game and as if the hardcore player is the wall preventing the flood of god tier casual content and not SE drip feeding us all content??? What's wrong with you people...

Hardcore raider attitudes AND casual player attitude are a contributing factor here. The lack of content sucks, sure. There's a vocal majority of hardcore raiders "happy" that they are the target audience and don't want to stop BEING the target audience. On the flipside, there's a vocal majority of casual players who are "upset" they aren't currently the target audience and feel like the hardcore raiders are being catered to at the moment.

[NamiRocket]

And that's assuming the Field Operation also doesn't get hit with a sudden difficulty spike, or the rewards are actually worth the wait, or how there's nothing stopping hardcore players from doing it too so they basically ended up with double the goodies anyway. It's a whole lot of waiting just to end up disappointed while STILL being crapped on too.
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Far be it for me to tell you what should or shouldn't be seen as difficult for you, but given that field operations haven't really been anything but casual thus far (outside of some of the raid content found within), I have to imagine none of that is going to change any time soon. But that's just my humble opinion as a relatively casual player.

Hardcore raider attitudes AND casual player attitude are a contributing factor here. The lack of content sucks, sure. There's a vocal majority of hardcore raiders "happy" that they are the target audience and don't want to stop BEING the target audience. On the flipside, there's a vocal majority of casual players who are "upset" they aren't currently the target audience and feel like the hardcore raiders are being catered to at the moment.

No one on the forums is a majority on either side. Normal people don't come here.

[BigCheez]

You're an exception to the rule then, because the general attitude from hardcore players seems to be that gatherers/crafters are just dirty wretches they have the misfortune of having to deal with sometimes, though I sort of get it, as I actively avoid buying crafted stuff when I can because I don't like the prices either (it's also why I don't bother with food or potions at all, literally not worth it, even if I make them myself).

Though, I'm also willing to bet that while said hardcore players would love to see said player wares crater below vendor price, they would raise holy hell if you suggested dropping the price of this *one* hairstyle by even half all while touting something about how their "time and effort" is worth more somehow.

"the general attitude from hardcore players seems to be that gatherers/crafters are just dirty wretches they have the misfortune of having to deal with sometimes"

Who is saying this? From where I'm standing, this just looks like you putting words in people's mouths. Everyone I know either crafts their own stuff, knows someone who will craft for them and buys from them at a cheaper price, or just gets on with it and buys what they need from the marketboard without whining about it.

I don't think it's particularly shocking news that most people would like for the things that they buy on the marketboard to drop in price but would not like for the things they sell on the marketboard to drop in price. I think that applies to pretty much everyone.

[Lilapop]

Far be it for me to tell you what should or shouldn't be seen as difficult for you, but given that field operations haven't really been anything but casual thus far (outside of some of the raid content found within), I have to imagine none of that is going to change any time soon. But that's just my humble opinion as a relatively casual player.



No one on the forums is a majority on either side. Normal people don't come here.

Vocal majority. Majority overall don't use forums.

[NamiRocket]

Vocal majority.

The term is vocal minority. There is no majority here, just the loudest cross section of players, which is a definite minority within the community. It's not vocal majority. That's not a thing people say.

[Xerosleep]

Would casuals be happy if the fashion accessory it dropped was instead a Beard and bald head like a certain strummer?

[Supersnow845]

Trying to play coy now, huh? Whatever, it doesn't change the hostile divide that exists between casual and hardcore and that FF14 wasn't the game, or community, I thought it was and I feel like I signed up for the wrong MMO this whole time.

You literally just made up a “hostile complaint” the hardcore community never said or thought then went “see damn hardcore community is being rude I didn’t sign up for this”

Like the voices in your head aren’t even he voices of the hardcore community