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    Aside from the usual bait and jerk, can someone please explain to me why this PvE content is so important? It’s just you and seven other people pressing buttons on a floating woman again. What’s waiting for you on the other end? A hair style? Is that really worth you all doxxing other people for? The hair doesn’t even look that good. It clips and the flowers look bad. You realize that this doesn’t make your game look too good, right? You and your ilk relentlessly promoted this game as “the friendly MMO” in 2021 and pressured everyone to leave WoW. Now that everyone is stuck here, you pull the rug out and dox people with non-compliant opinions. Just so that you can have a hair style.

    Weird game!
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    Aside from the usual bait and jerk, can someone please explain to me why this PvE content is so important? It’s just you and seven other people pressing buttons on a floating woman again. What’s waiting for you on the other end? A hair style? Is that really worth you all doxxing other people for? The hair doesn’t even look that good. It clips and the flowers look bad. You realize that this doesn’t make your game look too good, right? You and your ilk relentlessly promoted this game as “the friendly MMO” in 2021 and pressured everyone to leave WoW. Now that everyone is stuck here, you pull the rug out and dox people with non-compliant opinions. Just so that you can have a hair style.

    Weird game!
    How do i like this comment 50 times?


    The argument about needing to do rotation well
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    And I thought Clowns are mostly seen in a Circus nowadays.

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    Here's a gem (a response to someone suggesting CAR is tuned too high):
    "that is what happen when you make your game for pregnant women and pensionaries for the last 2 expansions"
    There are plenty more.

    the duality of man.

    really tho. is absolutely wild how brazenly toxic people have gotten over this game. perhaps chaotic will wake yoshiP up to the severity of the problem and make them implement tools to curve this behaviour where it happens in game

    ive been raiding savage current content since eden 8s shiva, so i think i have a little bit of past experience to say here that CAR is as hard as a 3rd wing on a savage fight. NOW i am not not okay with that, IF its an 8 or even 16 man. but a difficulty level that high on 24 man is complete insanity. They even lock ur BIS behind it. tell me. if m3s was 24 man would u do it? what about m2s? ofc not lol ppl would absolutely riot. the devs would never ask players to do that. yet here we are. they listened to xenosys vex so much they only put content in the game for people like him. I miss the day when everybody could relate to zepla because she was just a casual player who was kinda bad at the game but had a great personality. now everybody hates her because according to them shes a bad raider
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    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    How do i like this comment 50 times?









    the duality of man.

    really tho. is absolutely wild how brazenly toxic people have gotten over this game. perhaps chaotic will wake yoshiP up to the severity of the problem and make them implement tools to curve this behaviour where it happens in game

    ive been raiding savage current content since eden 8s shiva, so i think i have a little bit of past experience to say here that CAR is as hard as a 3rd wing on a savage fight. NOW i am not not okay with that, IF its an 8 or even 16 man. but a difficulty level that high on 24 man is complete insanity. They even lock ur BIS behind it. tell me. if m3s was 24 man would u do it? what about m2s? ofc not lol ppl would absolutely riot. the devs would never ask players to do that. yet here we are. they listened to xenosys vex so much they only put content in the game for people like him. I miss the day when everybody could relate to zepla because she was just a casual player who was kinda bad at the game but had a great personality. now everybody hates her because according to them shes a bad raider
    Mechanical difficulty is firmly around extreme level, the thing that makes it harder for the group is that 24 people need to play together as opposed to just 8. Ironically the people making it savage level are people who instead of learning mechanics come to the forum and complain about enaero being unreactable.

    You complain about toxicity but your earlier responses in the thread prove you need a mirror instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    Aside from the usual bait and jerk, can someone please explain to me why this PvE content is so important? It’s just you and seven other people pressing buttons on a floating woman again. What’s waiting for you on the other end? A hair style?
    It is important because casual players got no content to do - again. The more often this happens the less likely they are to stick around. And there was no real new PVE content for casuals since the release of Zadnor in late ShB. At least no content which would entertain a player for more than one or two evenings.

    When chaotic raids establish themself as a recurring form of content then there is less available dev time and money for developing casual content.

    Locking the hairstyle behind it is important because it sets a precedent. More and more things get locked behind the growing number of hardcore content. The average casual player has less content and less available items. Many people stick around because they want to collect these things. But why bother anymore when the collectables are out of reach? You are missing mounts, pets, now the hairstyle. Why even bother anymore collecting? Why even bother anymore to collect the things from the content which you can actually play? Your collection is missing so many things already. Why even bother anymore to play the game at all?
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    It’s a good thing not to answer your enemies. I scarcely ever do. Perhaps Emily is more like me than I am like myself. Perhaps she would rather not answer her friends, even. She keeps it all in her heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    It is important because casual players got no content to do - again.
    The vast majority of content in this game is casual content and the vast majority of content released this expansion will be casual content. Heaven forbid they release a couple raids that can't be facerolled in the meantime.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    Locking the hairstyle behind it is important because it sets a precedent. More and more things get locked behind the growing number of hardcore content. The average casual player has less content and less available items. Many people stick around because they want to collect these things. But why bother anymore when the collectables are out of reach? You are missing mounts, pets, now the hairstyle. Why even bother anymore collecting? Why even bother anymore to collect the things from the content which you can actually play? Your collection is missing so many things already. Why even bother anymore to play the game at all?
    The hairstyle is on the marketboard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CidHeiral View Post
    The vast majority of content in this game is casual content and the vast majority of content released this expansion will be casual content. Heaven forbid they release a couple raids that can't be facerolled in the meantime.

    The hairstyle is on the marketboard.
    Welcome dear students, to "I have not read the thread 101". Unless you have mistaken your course and were actually here for "Just egging people on because rage is so good 301".
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    Quote Originally Posted by CidHeiral View Post
    vast majority of content released this expansion will be casual content.
    Oh? You mean the first tier of Savage raids? Or the new Ultimate that dropped right after that? Or the new Chaotic that dropped right after that? Or could you be referring to the "exploration" zone that everyone seems to forget will have an Extreme/Savage raid tacked on to it?

    Compared to...

    That 1 new Hildi quest? What is this vast majority?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilapop View Post
    That 1 new Hildi quest? What is this vast majority?
    1 new hildi quest
    That isn't casual content because it's not - actually - PLAYABLE.
    Hildi content used to make great 'take a break, change of pace' content.
    But what am I taking a break from?
    Great... so I'm taking a break... Frooomm - taking a break.

    The problem is the casual is barely playable. The DT alliance was too easy. Inconsequential. No one doing DT is anoob. If they are they can go practice HW of SB alliance one in rouls. We can carry them.
    It all needs to be dunscaith Rabansstre difficulty.
    The whole of EW was a dissapointment. Especially Thalia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurgeh View Post
    1 new hildi quest
    That isn't casual content because it's not - actually - PLAYABLE.
    Hildi content used to make great 'take a break, change of pace' content.
    But what am I taking a break from?
    Great... so I'm taking a break... Frooomm - taking a break.

    The problem is the casual is barely playable. The DT alliance was too easy. Inconsequential. No one doing DT is anoob. If they are they can go practice HW of SB alliance one in rouls. We can carry them.
    It all needs to be dunscaith Rabansstre difficulty.
    The whole of EW was a dissapointment. Especially Thalia
    Did you add text to my message...? Good lord.

    Hildi content is "take a break" content? Was it not literally required for the last set of relics? Relics, which everyone seems to agree is part of casual content? Why do you get to determine what everyone finds difficult or not? I don't think you are the objective source on everyone else's overall enjoyment of other content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilapop View Post
    Did you add text to my message...? Good lord.

    Hildi content is "take a break" content? Was it not literally required for the last set of relics? Relics, which everyone seems to agree is part of casual content? Why do you get to determine what everyone finds difficult or not? I don't think you are the objective source on everyone else's overall enjoyment of other content.
    Apologies if I did... a new Japanese place opened up near me so I was just chilling on my phone while enjoying a really good donburi, and one of those drinks with the ball that you pop.
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    Damnit that's where that text went! Yeah I lost that post and had to rewrite it. Guess that's where I lost it.
    Fixed it now.
    Sorry! Yeah having words out in one's month is not nice. Accident though.
    I'm not putting up a forum post to have them improve the forum engine. I want them to focus making casual content as good as it used to be. (Most forums have the same 'vulnerability' if you want to call it that, to be fair)
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