Chaotic is a masterpiece of content but points out other issues with the game.

[Clockworks]

If it was savage only you wouldn't be able to get it at all until it became trivial in 4-5 years
Farm some gil and/or wait for the price to continue to drop like always

It's still an hairstyle while there's barely any in the game, it should be baseline, or in the absolute worst case mog station, not that I approve of that option.

If you are going to limit hairstyles creation because "muh old engine", then at least dont gatekeep hairs behind savage content or a massive amount of gil.

[Lilapop]

Why does it need to be affordable for casual players?

Why should it only be obtainable in a Chaotic raid?

[Gember]

If it was savage only you wouldn't be able to get it at all until it became trivial in 4-5 years
Farm some gil and/or wait for the price to continue to drop like always

I would ignore "Clockworks", or StormPeaks in this case. Its just a other alt they created, (Same last name and same server) and they tend to make everyone mad on the forums with their takes.

[Kaurhz]

I would ignore "Clockworks", or StormPeaks in this case. Its just a other alt they created, (Same last name and same server) and they tend to make everyone mad on the forums with their takes.

I'm not a fan as much as the next guy, but she's absolutely right in this case.

[Clockworks]

I would ignore "Clockworks", or StormPeaks in this case. Its just a other alt they created, (Same last name and same server) and they tend to make everyone mad on the forums with their takes.

You really showed my point wrong with that one, you really did !

You could also have stayed on topic though but yeah I guess your "expose" (Am I even hiding ? lmao) was worth more.

I'm not a fan as much as the next guy, but she's absolutely right in this case.

Thank you, I dont know why I'm "making everyone mad" with that take really, I just think the hairstyle should be baseline and available to everyone, I'm not sure what there is to be mad about, like please by all means be angry about my takes on housing because I have my own opinion that a lot of people dont agree with, but this is a simple hairstyle that should be available for every single player considering the lack of hairstyles and customization in this game, there is quite literally nothing to be mad about.

[Tsumdere]

Notice how no one ever says anything about rewards from hardcore content unless it's kawaii like flower hairstyle and axolotl? Y'all would be radio silent if it was ugly like criterion Quaqua or a male hairstyle.

I don't think it's about wanting it to be available to everyone (it already is btw), it's just having a little tantrum it's not automatically put in your inventory.

[Clockworks]

Notice how no one ever says anything about rewards from hardcore content unless it's kawaii like flower hairstyle and axolotl? Y'all would be radio silent if it was ugly like criterion Quaqua or a male hairstyle.

I don't think it's about wanting it to be available to everyone (it already is btw), it's just having a little tantrum it's not automatically put in your inventory.

As it should be, its basic customization in a game that already is lacking it.

[Gember]

I'm not a fan as much as the next guy, but she's absolutely right in this case.

There is no solid rule saying hairstyles should never be in different types of content. I had to go out of my way to do harder content that I was not a fan of to get things I wanted, and it honestly isn't much different with this hairstyle. The hairstyle also has a easy way to obtain it by buying it off the marketboard. Its just like buying a mount off the marketboard. Its expensive, but people can work their way up to getting it if they truly wanted it. 50 mil already went down to 10 mil. Would you like to do a ultimate to get a shiny weapon to wear in town? Wear the dyeble gear from the latest savage tier to look pretty? Cosmetics by no means was never just meant for JUST casual content, or cash shop. Just because its different (aka, hairstyle) doesn't mean it had a unhidden rule that it should only be for casual content, or the shop. This is just being made up by a part of the community who don't want to commit. -shrugs-

[Kaurhz]

There is no solid rule saying hairstyles should never be in different types of content. I had to go out of my way to do harder content that I was not a fan of to get things I wanted, and it honestly isn't much different with this hairstyle. The hairstyle also has a easy way to obtain it by buying it off the marketboard. Its just like buying a mount off the marketboard. Its expensive, but people can work their way up to getting it if they truly wanted it. 50 mil already went down to 10 mil. Would you like to do a ultimate to get a shiny weapon to wear in town? Wear the dyeble gear from the latest savage tier to look pretty? Cosmetics by no means was never just meant for JUST casual content, or cash shop. Just because its different (aka, hairstyle) doesn't mean it had a unhidden rule that it should only be for casual content, or the shop. This is just being made up by a part of the community who don't want to commit. -shrugs-

The problem is not the types of content that it comes from, but rather the shelf life of the content where it is from, again, historically large-scale content has never had the best shelf life, and this content will be no different in the fact that it will be on life support with Discord, probably before we even reach the needed item level sync, and IMO, if you are locking character customization behind content, then the content would need to at least have the shelf life to always be accessible. It's well and good it being OK right now, but in several months when you only have 3-4 runs weekly, exclusively organized via Discord, that may or may not take tens of runs to get. A lot of people being OK with it at the moment are OK with it virtue of the fact it takes them 1-3 runs at worst to get the hairstyle.

These people would have as much of an issue if they put it in something casual like maps under similar circumstances to the Aidoneous minion as to what has been seen with the current situation of putting it behind a savage 24-man. It's not just cuz they want something for nothing, because there are legitimate concerns with this content long term. Exacerbated by the fact of a game that already has atrociously limited character customization. Ironically you wouldn't have as many complaints if people actually had faith in this content not being dead in PF by March, or if the game actually... You know... Had more flushed out character customization options. There is no rule obviously, but if a game has notoriously low character customization options, then it isn't the most practical solution to have them behind something with low shelf life. Ironically, you could go as far to say they could have released this hairstyle behind 1-2Mln MGP, and people would not take as much issue with it, because the shelf life of that content is always there.

Also this outcry is similar to the outcry seen in HW when they released the Coven weapons behind Emergency Missions in Diadem, which had prospective of BiS, seeing as they are 280 at the time. So this issue isn't as simple as you might want to suggest it is, and nor is it exclusive to people who "don't want to commit".

Notice how no one ever says anything about rewards from hardcore content unless it's kawaii like flower hairstyle and axolotl? Y'all would be radio silent if it was ugly like criterion Quaqua or a male hairstyle.

I don't think it's about wanting it to be available to everyone (it already is btw), it's just having a little tantrum it's not automatically put in your inventory.

Interesting, a lot of the complaints about the Axolotl weren't that it was cute and locked behind savage, bar that 1 meme thread. A lot of them actually stemmed from the fact it just didn't fit the Pandaemonium raid theme at all (Same issue as when they decided to put Shadow Wolf on Mogstation as opposed to through BLU Mage completing Eden Raids). Even raiders were complaining about this, and no, people would not be radio silent about it, a dumb decision is a dumb decision, regardless of whether it's that kawaiiii hairstyle, or the hairstyle the curls that look like they came from MS Paint.

It's also less about it being available to everyone, and it's more about the fact that large scale raid content has historically had dreadful shelf life.

[ExiaKuromonji]

Why should it only be obtainable in a Chaotic raid?

It isn't though