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    Why should we nerf content that was confirmed to be Savage level by devs?

    That doesn't make much sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Why should we nerf content that was confirmed to be Savage level by devs?

    That doesn't make much sense.
    it was only confirmed to be savage at the very last minute in a passing remark by mr ozma. it was never advertised as such on the keynotes. and the majority of the community agrees its a far to heavy ask of the party finder. i don't understand why everything needs to be baby's first dungeon or "ill give you special cells" what we wanted was BA level content. what we've got is another delubrum reginae savage
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    it was only confirmed to be savage at the very last minute in a passing remark by mr ozma. it was never advertised as such on the keynotes. and the majority of the community agrees its a far to heavy ask of the party finder. i don't understand why everything needs to be baby's first dungeon or "ill give you special cells" what we wanted was BA level content. what we've got is another delubrum reginae savage
    Actually if you look at this post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post

    Interview with Yoshi-P, Claims Savage difficulty:
    https://www.pcgamesn.com/final-fanta...hida-interview

    Official PLL Digest - Claims Savage difficulty
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/512088

    Unofficial Translation of PLL - Claims initial goal was Extreme, but it's tuned closer to Savage 1/2 when factoring in 24 people. Note: this is the only place that mentions Extreme. Not that I'm saying it wasn't said but even then there's acknowledgement that it was tuned higher.

    https://x.com/Nova_Crystallis/status...83007271219440
    It was mentioned 4 months ago to be Savage tier in an interview with Yoshi-P and as recent as Nov 11th PLL again to be Savage level. At least 1 month and 20 days before the content released in the most recent case. How is that last minute?


    Quote Originally Posted by Lilapop View Post
    Locking it behind current Extreme will go against part of what they said they wanted to do, though. Ignoring how they fully intended this to be an Extreme level encounter.
    Read above. This has already been debunked. The official digest on the forums states Savage level specifically. Even the post from 4months ago, states Savage level as well. The only time we hear about their intentions were "Extreme" was from the unofficial translation of the PLL, and even then it acknowledges that the content was confirmed to be savage level in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilapop View Post
    Would make sense if you read beyond the word "nerf," considering op listed their reasoning.
    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post

    - please nerf some of the brutally punishing mechanics like no time to react on aeros/death or death debuff and also the absurd body checks

    - its far to punishing for sprout raiders and damn near unclearable in pf. even farm parties cant do it.
    This is their reasoning. They are arguing for a savage tier fight to not have body checks, be less punishing for sprout raiders and make it more easily clearable in PF by nerfing aspects of the fight.
    How does that make sense to do such for Savage-tier content when the devs already confirmed it would be of such difficulty?
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    Last edited by Havenchild; 12-31-2024 at 01:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    This is their reasoning. They are arguing for a savage tier fight to not have body checks, be less punishing for sprout raiders and make it more easily clearable in PF by nerfing aspects of the fight.
    How does that make sense to do such for Savage-tier content when the devs already confirmed it would be of such difficulty?
    They're asking for an easier Savage. What doesn't make sense about it? While I personally don't want an easier Savage fight 'less it be considered Extreme instead, I can understand it pretty easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilapop View Post
    They're asking for an easier Savage. What doesn't make sense about it? While I personally don't want an easier Savage fight 'less it be considered Extreme instead, I can understand it pretty easily.
    So basically they don't want savage, they want a normal alliance raid. Well we have those already, what's the issue again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    So basically they don't want savage, they want a normal alliance raid.
    Yes, no way anyone would ever want something in between savage and normal. Any and all criticism is just lazy people looking for freebies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    So basically they don't want savage, they want a normal alliance raid. Well we have those already, what's the issue again?
    They, like many others, want a more difficult Alliance encounter, yknow, what this was marketed to be? Not a 24 man Savage trial?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilapop View Post
    They, like many others, want a more difficult Alliance encounter, yknow, what this was marketed to be? Not a 24 man Savage trial?
    You can stop repeating this lie, it doesn't make it any more true.

    It was marketed to be a savage trial by multiple sources.
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    BA is much more punishing with ozma by just porting everyone out of the arena, if 1 person is missing in a tower... or the lightnings that wipe entire groups if they go off in the party

    The difficulty is fine, its lower than sphene ex mechanic-wise and a LOT of stuff is recoverable. You can even cheese the hardest part with tank lb. For the single individual, the mechs are much easier than any savage fight, theres almost nothing to pay much attention to


    its called chaotic for a reason, not Syrcus Tower.v2
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    Last edited by ServerCollaps; 12-31-2024 at 04:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    it was only confirmed to be savage at the very last minute in a passing remark by mr ozma. it was never advertised as such on the keynotes. and the majority of the community agrees its a far to heavy ask of the party finder. i don't understand why everything needs to be baby's first dungeon or "ill give you special cells" what we wanted was BA level content. what we've got is another delubrum reginae savage
    I'm sorry you haven't noticed, but they've been talking about wanting to create more challenging content in the game for a while.
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