#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Connor]

What I don’t get about White Mage is that the devs tout it as being the ‘traditional, iconic FF healer’ despite FFXIV’s White Mage drawing so scarcely from that identity.

Like, if I was asked about ‘what are some iconic White Magic spells’ I’d immediately say like, Cure, Protect, Shell, Haste. So even with those four extremely basic spells White Mages can be seen healing the party and shoring up party defenses (i.e mitigation), and buffing party members in some way. Their idea that White Mage is some job that ‘heals and heals more’ hasn’t ever really been the case from what I’ve experienced.

To make it even more hilarious the previous incarnations of White Mage were much more in line with what you’d expect from the job. I mean, if you ask someone what ‘fundamental’ WHM spells were in 2.0 they’d probably say ‘Cure, Protect, Stone/Aero, Stoneskin’. Which like, in those four extremely basic spells the job is able to offer healing, mitigate damage, deal damage and give HP shields for additional mitigation.

Obviously Protect isn’t the best example because it had so many issues like needing 100% uptime and people hated having to cast it, but like, they could’ve just reworked it instead of being like ‘let’s just remove this entire capability from White Mage (then readd it later as a 120s cool-down)’ lol

[Hyperia]

Heh, there not locking this topic like they have done in the past when they go over 10,000 posts.

Are they so afraid of this topic that they don’t want to touch it in any way?

[Azurarok]

Seems the mitigation bit's even sillier in JP since their using raidfinder sometimes gets them grouped with 2 WHMs in things like Sphene Ex.

Not sure if there's anything really holding them back from doing it. Maybe some dev is super attached to the Pure/Barrier split despite the lv100 skills being designed to act like the other healer type.

Otherwise if their being spells on the GCD is a problem that's a non-issue because lilies are right there. WHM already has an established gimmick of healing tools on the GCD that don't cost them dps to perform. Adding StoneSkinII or Protect back in as a lily spender'd also somewhat reduce 'wasting' a lily to charge the blood lily for buffs too, so it seems like the fastest, most effective way to bring them back with their current setup.

[TheDustyOne]

Seems the mitigation bit's even sillier in JP since their using raidfinder sometimes gets them grouped with 2 WHMs in things like Sphene Ex.

Not sure if there's anything really holding them back from doing it, maybe some dev is super attached to the Pure/Barrier split despite the lv100 skills being designed to act like the other healer type.

Otherwise if their being spells on the GCD is a problem that's a non-issue because lilies are right there. WHM already has an established gimmick of healing tools on the GCD that don't cost them dps to perform. Add StoneSkinII or Protect back in as a lily spender'd also somewhat reduce 'wasting' a lily to charge the blood lily for buffs too, so it seems like fastest, most effective way to bring them back with their current setup.

It isn't a lot to implement lily variants of those older spells, although Stoneskin doesn't really fit the holy feel of Afflatus spells, so I'd tweak it to something like Afflatus Gratia (I'd also look into replacing Divine Benison into a lily spell for a single target variant and naming it Afflatus Benison). Protect however just needs Afflatus put into the name to fit the theme and that's it, no new animations would be needed.

[TBerry]

Was it ever about improving though or is it really just enabling your power trip?
You try to bring others down to elevate yourselves up.

[Supersnow845]

Was it ever about improving though or is it really just enabling your power trip?
You try to bring others down to elevate youraselves up.

You mean after we offered 6 years of “good faith feedback” from the moment ShB lobotomised the healers only to be told “lol go play ultimates”

Was that phrase really about improving healers or was it just enabling yoshi p’s power trip as you so eloquently put it

[TBerry]

You mean after we offered 6 years of “good faith feedback” from the moment ShB lobotomised the healers only to be told “lol go play ultimates”

Was that phrase really about improving healers or was it just enabling yoshi p’s power trip as you so eloquently put it

So how does that power trip, as you so eloquently accuse Yoshi-P of, justify you attempting to just putting others down to lift yourselves up?
Elaborate.

[Supersnow845]

So how does that power trip, as you so eloquently accuse Yoshi-P of, justify you attempting to just putting others down to lift yourselves up?
Elaborate.

How did anyone even “put anyone down to lift themselves up” as you put it. Like what was the power trip we were even on in the first place

Trying to raise awareness for the fact we’ve been ignored for years with no outreach, weeeeeeelll forgive us

[Alice_Rivers]

So how does that power trip, as you so eloquently accuse Yoshi-P of, justify you attempting to just putting others down to lift yourselves up?
Elaborate.

When even the tank forum concedes there's a problem, one might think there is actually a problem.

[TBerry]

How did anyone even “put anyone down to lift themselves up” as you put it. Like what was the power trip we were even on in the first place

Trying to raise awareness for the fact we’ve been ignored for years with no outreach, weeeeeeelll forgive us

That is a lie, there are plenty examples of healers just trying to esse4ntiqally make rthe entire game dependable on them.