Chaotic Alliance Raid is a fun fight, but awful content

[Fawkes]

I assume they crammed all these rewards in there because they know they screwed up bad on Criterion in that department, but putting a hairstyle behind what sounds like essentially a savage fight really rubs me the wrong way. Casual-tier rewards and no barrier to entry and a first-timer bonus to encourage new people to do it, but then having a fight that casuals probably can't do? Seems like a recipe for the majority of players to be annoyed by this content.

[Fuyuqi]

I assume they crammed all these rewards in there because they know they screwed up bad on Criterion in that department, but putting a hairstyle behind what sounds like essentially a savage fight really rubs me the wrong way. Casual-tier rewards and no barrier to entry and a first-timer bonus to encourage new people to do it, but then having a fight that casuals probably can't do? Seems like a recipe for the majority of players to be annoyed by this content.

Exactly, I feel like Square has been having a hard time matching content to the expectations of the players who actually want to do it, if that makes sense. Most hardcore players I know care more about the new BiS gear and selling mounts/hair for gil than they do about obtaining the new items. And of course, being able to find a party of players at a similar skill level to actually clear the fight.

[Reimmi]

The only complaint i dont agree with is that there's no trash
trash is literally never fun. I wish wow would completely do away with it too, it is always a waste of my and everyone elses time.

Leave that to dungeons not raids

[Valence]

I'm not surprised that the only way to introduce challenge in the current system is just to put big body checks, because there is nothing else left to prevent players from progressing in hardcore content. Not that this should ever have been hardcore content in the first place... At least in challenging casual content, you can just slow down progression by just being more brutal on the raid without wall blocking the whole alliance with body checks. Just let people limp through things...

Also trash can be made more interesting as well, especially looking at criterion dungeons. It would help with the difficulty as well, allowing some out of combat "checkpoints" so that newer players aren't expected to be fully focused for 12 minutes straight and instead can learn more comfortably in shorter bursts of 4-6 minutes. If anything, multiple bosses would actually also discourage leaving, since you would actually be losing progress when you do leave instead of throwing yourself at the same wall from zero every time. If you've done any 2-phase savage fight or even DSR you'll see that effect. Sunk cost fallacy and all.

Criterion trash is the only good thing I've kept from criterion.

The only complaint i dont agree with is that there's no trash
trash is literally never fun. I wish wow would completely do away with it too, it is always a waste of my and everyone elses time.

Leave that to dungeons not raids

Run criterion and check out how trash is designed. It's not even hard, could be probably done by most players in the game, and yet it's interesting enough that you can't just fall asleep over it. This is what normal criterion should have been about with its bosses as well instead of going full savage mode, and this is what harder ARs should have been about as well.

[Eastwall]

I assume they crammed all these rewards in there because they know they screwed up bad on Criterion in that department, but putting a hairstyle behind what sounds like essentially a savage fight really rubs me the wrong way. Casual-tier rewards and no barrier to entry and a first-timer bonus to encourage new people to do it, but then having a fight that casuals probably can't do? Seems like a recipe for the majority of players to be annoyed by this content.

Yep, l though it would be like delebrum. Went in, wiped 2 hours,then l quit, lol. The hairstyle aren't that good anyway