Do you think that Picto needs a nerf?

[Lyth]

I think the clear count is even more baffling than DPS. 1 SMN clear, 8 BLM clears and 159 PCT clears.

That's not really all that surprising. PCT is just brokenly overpowered because of how it ignores downtime restrictions. People have been predicting this for months. The fix is really simple, all you need to do is force motif use to require a target. There are plenty of other burst jobs out there, but there's still a requirement of maintaining uptime to build burst.

There are unfortunately a lot of staunch defenders of this imbalance, as you can see in this thread. But the instant that you rebalance the job more fairly, they'll drop it and jump ship, so there's no point in catering to them.

[Ggwppino]

That's not really all that surprising. PCT is just brokenly overpowered because of how it ignores downtime restrictions. People have been predicting this for months. The fix is really simple, all you need to do is force motif use to require a target. There are plenty of other burst jobs out there, but there's still a requirement of maintaining uptime to build burst.

There are unfortunately a lot of staunch defenders of this imbalance, as you can see in this thread. But the instant that you rebalance the job more fairly, they'll drop it and jump ship, so there's no point in catering to them.

Do you know what the solution is?
Buff blm making it generally stronger than pct and buff rdm making it reach melee damage. The rest remains unchanged.
Make the blm much more attractive as they will be rewarded for their effort and the rdm will have a more worthwhile role.

[Carighan]

Do you know what the solution is?
Buff blm making it generally stronger than pct and buff rdm making it reach melee damage. The rest remains unchanged.
Make the blm much more attractive as they will be rewarded for their effort and the rdm will have a more worthwhile role.

Yes, of course.

In particular because history has shown how well buffing everyone else instead of nerfing the one outlier has always worked for MMORPGs.

/s

[ForteNightshade]

Do you know what the solution is?
Buff blm making it generally stronger than pct and buff rdm making it reach melee damage. The rest remains unchanged.
Make the blm much more attractive as they will be rewarded for their effort and the rdm will have a more worthwhile role.

Congratulations, you're supposedly "solution" has rendered Summoner a dead job because there's quite literally zero reason to ever play it and made Melee as a whole redundant. After all, why would you want any one of them over a Red Mage dealing comparable damage while offering not only an on demand raise but healing too?

[Supersnow845]

Congratulations, you're supposedly "solution" has rendered Summoner a dead job because there's quite literally zero reason to ever play it and made Melee as a whole redundant. After all, why would you want any one of them over a Red Mage dealing comparable damage while offering not only an on demand raise but healing too?

As opposed to right now where the melee render all but PCT irrelevant

[ForteNightshade]

As opposed to right now where the melee render all but PCT irrelevant

Except they do not. Caster balance is awful, nobody is going to deny that. However, that is entirely separate problem from melee.

If you were to buff Red Mage to deal melee level damage, you now have a job without any uptime restrictions, 10% party mitigation and both an on demand heal and raise. In what world is that remotely comparable to the current landscape, one where Red Mage was chosen over melee in FRU prog on more than a few teams despite it's awful damage? I'm all for buffing the casters but the person I quoted went to the opposite extreme. Right now running RDM/SMN and Pictro is perfectly fine in a prog setting. If RDM is pushing SAM/DRG/NIN levels, you'd be actively trolling to not have it because they offer nowhere close to the utility and flexibility.

Axe Magicek Barrier, Vercure and Verraise then we can talk about Red Mage doing melee damage. Although, there's still the uptime discrepancy.

[Ggwppino]

Except they do not. Caster balance is awful, nobody is going to deny that. However, that is entirely separate problem from melee.

And in fact, it's a way to balance the casters, where all of them prefer to play PCT (because it's fun, because it offers maximum damage consistently)

In your imagination, unconsciously, when you think of a balanced party you think of 2 melee, 1 caster and 1 pranged. And throughout Endwalker was objectively the best thing to have, given the 6-8% difference between melee and the others.
Well a balanced party is 1 melee, 1 caster, 1 pranged and a free spot.

If the RDM did the same damage as the melee, the melee would still have their space, but it would allow the RDM to compete much more easily at the caster spot because it will do considerable damage plus its versatily and could compete for the free spot.

[Supersnow845]

Except they do not. Caster balance is awful, nobody is going to deny that. However, that is entirely separate problem from melee.

If you were to buff Red Mage to deal melee level damage, you now have a job without any uptime restrictions, 10% party mitigation and both an on demand heal and raise. In what world is that remotely comparable to the current landscape, one where Red Mage was chosen over melee in FRU prog on more than a few teams despite it's awful damage? I'm all for buffing the casters but the person I quoted went to the opposite extreme. Right now running RDM/SMN and Pictro is perfectly fine in a prog setting. If RDM is pushing SAM/DRG/NIN levels, you'd be actively trolling to not have it because they offer nowhere close to the utility and flexibility.

Axe Magicek Barrier, Vercure and Verraise then we can talk about Red Mage doing melee damage. Although, there's still the uptime discrepancy.

So why is melee uptime a consideration but casting cast times aren’t. People seem so quick to forget that casters have to…….you know cast. Mechanics these days rarely force melee out of melee range but mechanics love casters running marathons around the arena to solve mechanics. Does “I can’t hit the boss when I’m not next to them” mean literally anything when you know every mechanic they made will allow you to solve it with 4 people next to the boss

Where is the compensation for caster uptime

When was the last time we got a mechanic that felt like it was designed around a turrety caster and not a melee

[VerySadDRG]

Mechanics these days rarely force melee out of melee range

Please play as melee in current savage tier, because you clearly have no clue what you're talking about.

[Carighan]

So why is melee uptime a consideration but casting cast times aren’t. People seem so quick to forget that casters have to…….you know cast.

I think it's because only Red Mage and Pictomancer really cast anything at all. Summoner is 3 casted spells per cycle and usually only 2, Black Mage is near-100%-instant or 100%-instant depending on how you want to do it.