Another World First Clear got disqualified due to "Cheating"

[Valence]

XIV's JP community is the undefeated world champion of ruining things for everyone else.

That's just the ones we see. Who's to say that in some of the contesting teams their members (the ones not streaming) aren't using mods as well?

[LilSpark]

I'm new to FFXIV Online and in general to the world of MMORPGs. I played GW2 for a while, it's a pretty good game.
I was hyped when New World came out, I played it for 160+ hours in the first month, but it was a total disappointment.
I also played WoW last expansion, but I stopped after I finished the story.
I watched World Race on WoW and it seems too basic to me. What I appreciate about FFXIV Online is that, the raid that is added is not on PTR and the teams that participate in the World Race cannot play it like in WoW.
And besides that in WoW there are addons that show you when to use a skill and when the boss uses an ability.
Of all the MMORPGs, FFXIV Online seems to be the best on the market from every point of view! I'm glad that I finally found the perfect MMO for me. It's sad what happened to World Race now... I don't understand why even in an MMORPG cheats are used... I don't generally understand people who use cheats because that's it, it's good that it was discovered and they removed them from race!

[Schan]

Honestly, I think Yoshi P should go ahead with the consequence of stopping developing Ultimates and I say this as someone who enjoys them. Blooming cheaters ruining things for the rest of us.

[Connor]

Idk if it’s a hot take or what but I really can’t fathom this.

Raid groups go through all the effort of preparing and gearing for ultimates, sign up to it knowing the content is intended to be the peak of ffxiv’s difficulty. They race against each other to be the ‘first’ ones to beat this super difficult content.

…then they use third party programs to make it easier? Wtf is the point lol? Why are they even doing ‘hard’ content if they’re going to use a bunch of illegal software to make it as easy as possible? I mean, doesn’t that pretty much invalidate the meaning of the ‘win’ anyway? ‘You beat the hardest content in the game and all it took was some third party programs’ lol.

If people are (bizarrely) going to argue ‘it’s impossible without plug-ins/mods/etc ’ then that sounds like a pretty major design flaw in the content and not license to just do whatever you want lol. Seems a bit weird for them to make content that cannot be completed without third-party programs when there’s a significant portion of the playerbase that literally cannot access them (console player)

[Schan]

Idk if it’s a hot take or what but I really can’t fathom this.

Raid groups go through all the effort of preparing and gearing for ultimates, sign up to it knowing the content is intended to be the peak of ffxiv’s difficulty. They race against each other to be the ‘first’ ones to beat this super difficult content.

…then they use third party programs to make it easier? Wtf is the point lol? Why are they even doing ‘hard’ content if they’re going to use a bunch of illegal software to make it as easy as possible? I mean, doesn’t that pretty much invalidate the meaning of the ‘win’ anyway? ‘You beat the hardest content in the game and all it took was some third party programs’ lol.

If people are (bizarrely) going to argue ‘it’s impossible without plug-ins/mods/etc ’ then that sounds like a pretty major design flaw in the content and not license to just do whatever you want lol. Seems a bit weird for them to make content that cannot be completed without third-party programs when there’s a significant portion of the playerbase that literally cannot access them (console player)

Because the point is to be numba oneONEoneOne. It's not about challenging yourself. It's about being on the top of a scoreboard.

To hell how you get there.

[Araxes]

…then they use third party programs to make it easier? Wtf is the point lol?

Exactly. I really hope this finally moves them to enforce Punishments on Users not giving a damn about the ToS. This is the THIRD Ultimate in a Row where the world first Team got caught using third party software

[Chiru_Kai]

Let me offer you a different perspective here.

In the past, it was *normal* to use straight up cheater plugins (you know, stuff that shows ground AOEs, tells you exactly where to stand and what to do) but then such stuff was not commonly streamed, and SE has no way of detecting. The only way we know is because of old clear videos that show obvious stuff.

a cheat plugin that shows a pixel perfect dot is absolutely laughable, and it's sort of good progress that this is now considered to be out of line. I agree that it is out of line, but compared to how the world first race used to go a few expansions ago, then last year's zoom hack and this year's pixel perfect dot is actually a sign of progress.

Such things are not easy to root out overnight, and it will likely never stop. But with every ultimate, it seems like it's going better and it happens more fairly, at least for world first.
Cheaters will always exist, and I hope SE also realizes this, and doesn't punish the rest of us for the actions of a few high-profile cases. Because many of us just do ultimates the normal and intended way and are having a blast with it!

[Collin_Sky]

That's just the ones we see. Who's to say that in some of the contesting teams their members (the ones not streaming) aren't using mods as well?

Fun fact, [nintendo switch game] doesn't show up on OBS, in fact, all [ffxiv meteor] UI elements don't show up unless you do full screen capture. So even streaming groups could be using it without you knowing. It's a stupid way to determine legitimacy.
Even then there's tons of tools like [A12S boss] and [Microsoft word assistant] that help with ping all happen behind the scenes, so again, dumb to assume streamers are legit.

[AllenThyl]

Imagine after years of playing the hardest of hardest content, still not intuitively knowing where your hitpixel is. Pathetic.

[Zakuyia]

Look XD and you thought ppl were honest....no one is lol we all cheat the moment were looking at guides. World first has probably been cheating for a long time it just finally got exposed they probably cheating on the new ultimate.