Another World First Clear got disqualified due to "Cheating"

[Connor]

Idk if it’s a hot take or what but I really can’t fathom this.

Raid groups go through all the effort of preparing and gearing for ultimates, sign up to it knowing the content is intended to be the peak of ffxiv’s difficulty. They race against each other to be the ‘first’ ones to beat this super difficult content.

…then they use third party programs to make it easier? Wtf is the point lol? Why are they even doing ‘hard’ content if they’re going to use a bunch of illegal software to make it as easy as possible? I mean, doesn’t that pretty much invalidate the meaning of the ‘win’ anyway? ‘You beat the hardest content in the game and all it took was some third party programs’ lol.

If people are (bizarrely) going to argue ‘it’s impossible without plug-ins/mods/etc ’ then that sounds like a pretty major design flaw in the content and not license to just do whatever you want lol. Seems a bit weird for them to make content that cannot be completed without third-party programs when there’s a significant portion of the playerbase that literally cannot access them (console player)

[Schan]

Idk if it’s a hot take or what but I really can’t fathom this.

Raid groups go through all the effort of preparing and gearing for ultimates, sign up to it knowing the content is intended to be the peak of ffxiv’s difficulty. They race against each other to be the ‘first’ ones to beat this super difficult content.

…then they use third party programs to make it easier? Wtf is the point lol? Why are they even doing ‘hard’ content if they’re going to use a bunch of illegal software to make it as easy as possible? I mean, doesn’t that pretty much invalidate the meaning of the ‘win’ anyway? ‘You beat the hardest content in the game and all it took was some third party programs’ lol.

If people are (bizarrely) going to argue ‘it’s impossible without plug-ins/mods/etc ’ then that sounds like a pretty major design flaw in the content and not license to just do whatever you want lol. Seems a bit weird for them to make content that cannot be completed without third-party programs when there’s a significant portion of the playerbase that literally cannot access them (console player)

Because the point is to be numba oneONEoneOne. It's not about challenging yourself. It's about being on the top of a scoreboard.

To hell how you get there.

[Araxes]

…then they use third party programs to make it easier? Wtf is the point lol?

Exactly. I really hope this finally moves them to enforce Punishments on Users not giving a damn about the ToS. This is the THIRD Ultimate in a Row where the world first Team got caught using third party software

[Chiru_Kai]

Let me offer you a different perspective here.

In the past, it was *normal* to use straight up cheater plugins (you know, stuff that shows ground AOEs, tells you exactly where to stand and what to do) but then such stuff was not commonly streamed, and SE has no way of detecting. The only way we know is because of old clear videos that show obvious stuff.

a cheat plugin that shows a pixel perfect dot is absolutely laughable, and it's sort of good progress that this is now considered to be out of line. I agree that it is out of line, but compared to how the world first race used to go a few expansions ago, then last year's zoom hack and this year's pixel perfect dot is actually a sign of progress.

Such things are not easy to root out overnight, and it will likely never stop. But with every ultimate, it seems like it's going better and it happens more fairly, at least for world first.
Cheaters will always exist, and I hope SE also realizes this, and doesn't punish the rest of us for the actions of a few high-profile cases. Because many of us just do ultimates the normal and intended way and are having a blast with it!

[AllenThyl]

Imagine after years of playing the hardest of hardest content, still not intuitively knowing where your hitpixel is. Pathetic.

[Commander_Justitia]

Imagine after years of playing the hardest of hardest content, still not intuitively knowing where your hitpixel is. Pathetic.

Says the Lalafell that is exactly 1 pixel on the screen...

I hope they still do level80 mainstory ultimate, it is what I am looking forward to.

[AllenThyl]

Says the Lalafell that is exactly 1 pixel on the screen...

I hope they still do level80 mainstory ultimate, it is what I am looking forward to.

So "the best of the best of the best" are doing everything to get even the most minuscule of advantage, even if it means violating the ToS and risk getting banned, but switching to Lala is just too much to ask?
Sweet baby Thaliak, one excuse more pathetic than the next.

[Zakuyia]

Look XD and you thought ppl were honest....no one is lol we all cheat the moment were looking at guides. World first has probably been cheating for a long time it just finally got exposed they probably cheating on the new ultimate.

[AllenThyl]

Imagine thinking that looking up strategies and using 3rd party mods that do a significant part of the gameplay automatically or even interfere with the packages sent between client and server are even comparable. Pathetic.

[Xuled]

just further proof that raiding is in mmo is laughable compared to wow lmao