Still no auto-combo for 123 on old jobs.

[Supersnow845]

>> "I don't want to lose comfortable and more reactive button-space for my more interesting forms of agency just to support an absurd arbitrary need to cycle keys across what is in essence just Broil-part-1, Broil-part-2, and Broil-part-3."

<< "Well why don't you just play an idle game?!"

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Sure, I guess, but whether CDs are fixed or not has nothing to do with button consolidation.

Nor is a design like SCH's, if applied to a DPS, going to be any less fixed than any other DPS's design. Gauges, for instance, are ultimately just CDs that start on cooldown and punish you for downtime.

That’s implying that a “DPS SCH” would have all its disconnected skills just be damage. There is a lot of design you could play around with for a DPS SCH if things weren’t so rigid on the combat side. Utility, augmentation of different paths that last indefinitely till you swap them opposing powerful skills that put each other on CD and have distinctive niches. Alternating between buff heavy and selfish based on party composition

Basically a job that has a lot of options and tunes those options to the fight itself sorta like how SCH plays its opposing CD’s based on what it needs at the time rather than the current DPS design of trying to fit an ultra rigid rotation into the fight with minimal deviance

[Shurrikhan]

That’s implying that a “DPS SCH” would have all its disconnected skills just be damage. There is a lot of design you could play around with for a DPS SCH if things weren’t so rigid on the combat side. Utility, augmentation of different paths that last indefinitely till you swap them opposing powerful skills that put each other on CD and have distinctive niches. Alternating between buff heavy and selfish based on party composition

Basically a job that has a lot of options and tunes those options to the fight itself sorta like how SCH plays its opposing CD’s based on what it needs at the time rather than the current DPS design of trying to fit an ultra rigid rotation into the fight with minimal deviance

I mean, if you could sample something like that, I'd probably be all for it. It's worked, more or less, for a few DPS specs in WoW, for instance (and no, I'm not talking about Aug).

The issue, though, is that I suspect that has more to do with the combat content themselves. Were their fights' profiles were as unvaried as XIV's, they would likewise fall into a perfectly strict obvious(ly) optimal rotation.

XIV combat is simple first and foremost because that's all its combat content incentivizes (and thereby [or, and ultimately] allows for).

• We don't have interesting disengagement tools because we scarcely have any disengagement. We don't have any suppression tools because there's nothing to interestingly suppress nor desire to allow that.
• We don't have interesting support tools because there's no use cases for them that wouldn't just be subsumed into rotational or obligatory events of damage increase.
• We don't have meaningful DPS-CD holding in part, yes, because some would then be worse hit than others (especially in PuGs) for needing to hold CDs but mostly because there are scarcely any DPS checks worth holding CDs for.
• And, similarly, we don't have anything but scheduled tank and healer CDs since there's nothing that would incentivize their use earlier while still allowing later at-cost recovery, at least outside of obviously bad play.