Disappointed With XIV Direction

[iVolke]

But I don't find the need to come forum and inform the player base. This is not an airport.

There are still a lot of things for me to do: collecting glams, housing, 2000 S hunt for that tiger mount. PvP mounts. Island Sanctuary.

No, but this is a forum meant for discussing the game and providing feedback. What a pompous reply.

Then you give really lame examples for content. 2000 S ranks, Island sanctuary, housing. A ridiculous achievement that you can't even grind for whenever you want, an area where all you do is run around and press X/left click on things with no meaningful interaction, and a system that we've already been utilizing for over a decade.

You're basically just saying "stfu dissenter" in a roundabout way.

[DPZ2]

No, but this is a forum meant for discussing the game and providing feedback. What a pompous reply.

Then you give really lame examples for content. 2000 S ranks, Island sanctuary, housing. A ridiculous achievement that you can't even grind for whenever you want, an area where all you do is run around and press X/left click on things with no meaningful interaction, and a system that we've already been utilizing for over a decade.

You're basically just saying "stfu dissenter" in a roundabout way.

The examples, in your opinion, are lame. Counter to that, your own examples may be lame in the opinion of another. You're basically just saying "because I don't agree with you, you must be telling someone to shut up".

As for feedback, what exactly is a developer supposed to make of the OP saying, for example,

Something needs to change because I am tired of seeing the people who I want to play this game with fade away because there is nothing to keep them engaged. And yet, there are people who say there's plenty to do.

It's the equivalent of "I'm bored" without explaining what excites you. From what I could tell, PvP is out, Criterion dungeons are out, Gold Saucer is out. And a call for "evergreen content" is worse than no feedback at all, since that term is frequently used by Social Media folk to describe how to maintain their subscriber counts. [ For an example of what's discussed, try this link: https://meetedgar.com/blog/evergreen-content-examples ]

[ovIm]

It's the equivalent of "I'm bored" without explaining what excites you. From what I could tell, PvP is out, Criterion dungeons are out, Gold Saucer is out.

What people are asking for, generally, is not content that takes a long time, its content that makes them forget the time spent in the game. Doing the same monotonous task for hours on end can be fun for some, that is true. In the same vein, trying for achievements that will take years to get, and do not net you any real reward will most likely deter even the most hardcore grind enthusiast, as the carrot at the end of the stick is missing.

imho, the things that I personally understood people want (and please note - this may be skewed because I have only spoken to people in chats and ingame, i have never conducted any real analysis of some sorts) is unorganized group content (things where you can join in, not have to coordinate with your teammates too much) as well as a reward system that gives you an incentive to continuously run said content. Specifically - battle content. Things where we push the buttons we work to unlock. The core gameplay of FF14 is damn good, it generally feels nice to play, after all.

Thats the reason people ask for earlier relic grinds, where you not only do things, but work towards an achievable goal. Its why people ask for earlier Field Exploration content, because you can spend hours in there just doing the activities there, or you can simply drop in for 20-30 minutes, do the same activities, and have still contributed to reaching a goal you have set yourself to achieve.

People I spoke to also want something new, something that breaks away from the old formulas and tries different things than what we already did. Luckily, Square Enix does experiment occasionally, just not always with battle content (we got Island Sanctuary instead of a Field Explorations Zone in DT, for example).

[Supersnow845]

I know of some one with 2 characters with the tiger mount. He did 4000 S rank. You can't do it doesnt mean other players can't.

If I wanted to use STFU, I will give it in your face. Stop spamming the forum how you dislike this expansion, just quit and let the money talk to SE.

Give this forum back to the fans that are still playing.

If you want the forums to be a happy go lucky circlejerk maybe petition square enix to stop sending people into this void of dead feedback for literally any problem with the game that isn’t RMT via their own in game systems

[FudoMyoo]

If you want the forums to be a happy go lucky circlejerk maybe petition square enix to stop sending people into this void of dead feedback for literally any problem with the game that isn’t RMT via their own in game systems

I'm paying a monthly service provided by SE, I respect their choice and freedom on creativity. If I don't like it, I unsubbed.

Plain & simple. Not pushing them to make the game I want. This is their game, they choice. I as player can choose to accept it and keep paying/playing or I can unsubbed and leave to play other games for entertainment. Why is it so difficult to understand this simple logic?

Please give us back the forum.

[Supersnow845]

I'm paying a monthly service provided by SE, I respect their choice and freedom on creativity. If I don't like it, I unsubbed.

Plain & simple. Not pushing them to make the game I want. This is their game, they choice. I as player can choose to accept it and keep paying/playing or I can unsubbed and leave to play other games for entertainment. Why is it so difficult to understand this simple logic?

Please give us back the forum.

Because “you are playing the devs game if you don’t like it leave” isn’t “logic” it’s literally the antithesis of how a live service game works

[Roda]

I'm paying a monthly service provided by SE, I respect their choice and freedom on creativity. If I don't like it, I unsubbed.

Plain & simple. Not pushing them to make the game I want. This is their game, they choice. I as player can choose to accept it and keep paying/playing or I can unsubbed and leave to play other games for entertainment. Why is it so difficult to understand this simple logic?

Please give us back the forum.

The game would've died in 1.0 with this attitude my dude.

[FudoMyoo]

The game would've died in 1.0 with this attitude my dude.

Yes, because we unsubbed.

Please do it.

[Rehayem]

Yes, because we unsubbed.

Please do it.

SE doesn't care if people unsub. They care about public media and bad rep.