7.1 Dragoon Changes Complaints

[HikariKurosawa]

I think it was too complicated, and so do the devs. It became unenjoyable to juggle the oGCDs and positionals. If the game is too demanding for me to enjoy optimal play, why would I play at all? There are very few people who enjoy the experience of "just getting by" with "non-optimal" play. People know what they are expected to do to play the game "right", and if it becomes too demanding they will tend to simply unsubscribe as they will feel that the game is not for them. Why would I continue to play a game that isn't designed for me when there are so many other activities that are designed for me?

People don't like being mediocre or substandard. They want to thrive. If you're so good at the game, then do all the ultimates and become the best dragoon. Are you really that good though? If it's so easy or you want to optimize past the point of just clearing the fight, then do it at the highest level. I don't think you're that good though.

[Schan]

Why would I continue to play a game that isn't designed for me when there are so many other activities that are designed for me?

I mean... If you want to stop playing a game because one job doesn't cater to you then I don't know what to say. Go ahead?

[HikariKurosawa]

I mean... If you want to stop playing a game because one job doesn't cater to you then I don't know what to say. Go ahead?

I mean, I did? Then I resubscribed after they changed the job to be more streamlined this patch. The job is catering to me in reality, not you. Difference between us is that I unsubscribe from the game if I recognize that I disagree with the design, you just continue to play while you complain on the forums. Who do you think they should take seriously?

[Schan]

I mean, I did? Then I resubscribed after they changed the job to be more streamlined this patch. The job is catering to me in reality, not you. Difference between us is that I unsubscribe from the game if I recognize that I disagree with the design, you just continue to play while you complain on the forums. Who do you think they should take seriously?

Ideally, both. People who complain still care about the game, but eventually they will leave too. If SE wants to ignore the warning signs then it's on them. I really don't want them to pull a Blizzard but it seems we're heading that way.

But overall, I agree. Loyalty is not a thing that gets rewarded be it in game or in your professional life.

SE is not very... savy. Just look at the 2135674845 gacha games they've made and shut down.

[HikariKurosawa]

Ideally, both. People who complain still care about the game, but eventually they will leave too. If SE wants to ignore the warning signs then it's on them. I really don't want them to pull a Blizzard but it seems we're heading that way.

But overall, I agree. Loyalty is not a thing that gets rewarded be it in game or in your professional life.

SE is not very... savy. Just look at the 2135674845 gacha games they've made and shut down.

Why would you be rewarded for being happy enough to continue to play the game? You're already content enough to keep playing. If anything, people who are unhappy with the game enough to unsubscribe are the ones who should be rewarded. I want to play the game but couldn't justify it because I didn't like the state of the game enough.

Then when they change the game to make me happy, I reward them in turn by resubscribing. This is a business, not a friendship.

[HeavenlyArmed]

Why would you be rewarded for being happy enough to continue to play the game? You're already content enough to keep playing. If anything, people who are unhappy with the game enough to unsubscribe are the ones who should be rewarded. I want to play the game but couldn't justify it because I didn't like the state of the game enough.

Then when they change the game to make me happy, I reward them in turn by resubscribing. This is a business, not a friendship.

What you seem to miss is that you need an active sub to even post on the forums, meaning that if you just unsub then you're not sending any specific message to the devs about what you take issue with. That's what this thread is, sending the message about what we think is wrong with a change as it happens, to be clear that we don't like it. And considering this is by far the most active thread right now in the jobs section of the EN forums, and everyone except you who has posted here has been actively displeased with this change, there's a good chance that message comes across so we don't need to take more drastic action in response. Though also to be clear, I expect from reading most of these replies that there will absolutely people who unsub as a result of this change if it's not reverted as well, we're just giving the devs a chance to fix it before that happens.

[HikariKurosawa]

What you seem to miss is that you need an active sub to even post on the forums, meaning that if you just unsub then you're not sending any specific message to the devs about what you take issue with. That's what this thread is, sending the message about what we think is wrong with a change as it happens, to be clear that we don't like it. And considering this is by far the most active thread right now in the jobs section of the EN forums, and everyone except you who has posted here has been actively displeased with this change, there's a good chance that message comes across so we don't need to take more drastic action in response. Though also to be clear, I expect from reading most of these replies that there will absolutely people who unsub as a result of this change if it's not reverted as well, we're just giving the devs a chance to fix it before that happens.

You know when you unsub it gives you a prompt to explain why you're unsubbing right? Who are they going to consider, people who remain subbed while giving kneejerk reactions on the forums, or people who unsub and explain why they are unhappy with the game in the space provided to voice your reasoning for unsubbing?

I almost guarantee none of the people complaining in this thread are going to unsub from the game as a result of these changes. You'll throw a little fit, adapt, and realize that the devs actually know what they are doing and it is better this way.