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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    Not to be that guy, but Yoshi P is making completely fallacious arguments when he implies something isn't worth doing because it will never be perfect
    That's not what he's saying at all. He's saying he came to the realization that there is no perfect design that will make everyone happy and any time the devs make a choice there will always be people who want the opposite, so that's just something they have to take into account when making decisions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CidHeiral View Post
    That's not what he's saying at all. He's saying he came to the realization that there is no perfect design that will make everyone happy and any time the devs make a choice there will always be people who want the opposite, so that's just something they have to take into account when making decisions.
    I agree that he's saying that, but if you break it down a logical conclusion, all I see is excuse making at worst and redundancy at best. Yoshi P is saying it's inpossible to please everyone. But players are not asking for that, and even if they are, it's the product maker's obligation to interpret it sensibly. Everyone knows there's no magic patch cycle that will please 100% of players-- redundacy. It's extremely possible to deliver a patch that satisfies a range of player concerns and preferences-- he's just making excuses here to defend their egregious lack of accountability for delivering updates and content that reflects the all time highs Endwalker delivered.

    And what I mean when I say that, is that EW delivered them immense critical and commercial success, extreme sales, but DT is well agreed upon to reflect the same (low).investment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    he's just making excuses here to defend their egregious lack of accountability for delivering updates and content that reflects the all time highs Endwalker delivered.
    more like an excuse for being lazy, sticking to the same formula for the past 10 years and not think about a solid gamedesign. what's more crazy is : they probably won't shake that formula for the years to come at all cost even if it mean killing the game (not saying the game will die but you got the idea)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatch38 View Post
    more like an excuse for being lazy, sticking to the same formula for the past 10 years and not think about a solid gamedesign. what's more crazy is : they probably won't shake that formula for the years to come at all cost even if it mean killing the game (not saying the game will die but you got the idea)
    I think its both tbh. Yes, it's true that issues are ongoing regarding the patch cycles. But I think part of why there's so much criticism now as far as "is the sub worth it" is born of the financial gain SE garners from XIV, particularly hitting an all time high of subscriptions, sales and perhaps most importantly, player good will with 6.0.

    And that's not to say they're doing nothing. I think it's nice they're working on more midcore content-- too bad it's at the end of the expansion life cycle. I think it's nice they are looking at job updates-- who knows when we will see those ("wait until 8.0").

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    I love him but its easy:

    You HAVE to make hardcore and easier stuff AT THE SAME TIME. No ifs or buts, you need more, if you cant do that, you need a bigger team.
    Exactly this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    I agree that he's saying that, but if you break it down a logical conclusion, all I see is excuse making at worst and redundancy at best.
    That is because you're twisting yourself into a pretzel trying to find things to be mad about. The game isn't without issues but this armchair game dev tin foil hat nonsense is a waste of time to discuss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CidHeiral View Post
    That is because you're twisting yourself into a pretzel trying to find things to be mad about. The game isn't without issues but this armchair game dev tin foil hat nonsense is a waste of time to discuss.
    Yoshi P himself has commented on lack of a budget and outright said they have a lack of qualified hires that they would need to execute work. Not that you need his statements, you'd have to be completely naive to think they don't absolutely pad the hell out of their content purposely.

    They do it because they know there's a baseline of subscribers who will happily accept it.
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    yoshi-p interview

    they really need to remove all these trolls from the forums they are a cancer to any resepectable feed back from players
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