Echoes of Vana'diel FFXI Alliance Raid

[Zaniel]

Not a fan of the shoe-horning ultra fan service content. It's one thing to have easter eggs and cool references to the FF franchise but just using a crowbar to push content that makes no sense lore-wise is annoying. Golbez then Alexandria et al were complete nonsense and I suspect this will be more of the same (even if from a fight and spectacle perspective the raids might be completely enjoyable).

[Avoidy]

It's been so long since I got an alliance raid that I actually wanted to farm for glams.
Guess I'll have to keep waiting, because this just doesn't appeal to me at all. Even seeing the dye variations was like, what even is this aesthetic. It's just the edgiest thing they could find, with white swirly lines on top. My friends who played 11 were all gassing this up and telling me we'd definitely get some cool and colorful glams as a tribute to the 20 years worth of outfits that game has, but we literally just got some mall goth looking stuff, like come on man. That gacha crossover in the cash shop came out with a better outfit, assuming they don't go idiot mode and make it all one piece.

I'm stuck in copium mode, hoping that the outfits look better in game, hoping the gameplay in this alliance raid (as opposed to the last one, and the one before that) is actually engaging and fun. As someone who didn't play ff11 in its prime and doesn't care about it now, the scenery pics from this raid look gorgeous. But good scenery isn't enough. Please tell me they learned something from how hard euphro and thaleia bombed.

[Fawkes]

Not a fan of the shoe-horning ultra fan service content. It's one thing to have easter eggs and cool references to the FF franchise but just using a crowbar to push content that makes no sense lore-wise is annoying. Golbez then Alexandria et al were complete nonsense and I suspect this will be more of the same (even if from a fight and spectacle perspective the raids might be completely enjoyable).

Just pretend you don't know it's a FFXI raid and it's like Mhach or something where there's just a humongous city with a giant pyramid and a disco ball on top that nobody noticed until now. Why should it bother you if the disco ball is a reference to another game or how well the reference is done? It's nonsense that you have to suspend disbelief for either way.

It's been so long since I got an alliance raid that I actually wanted to farm for glams.
Guess I'll have to keep waiting, because this just doesn't appeal to me at all. Even seeing the dye variations was like, what even is this aesthetic. It's just the edgiest thing they could find, with white swirly lines on top. My friends who played 11 were all gassing this up and telling me we'd definitely get some cool and colorful glams as a tribute to the 20 years worth of outfits that game has, but we literally just got some mall goth looking stuff, like come on man. That gacha crossover in the cash shop came out with a better outfit, assuming they don't go idiot mode and make it all one piece.

I'm stuck in copium mode, hoping that the outfits look better in game, hoping the gameplay in this alliance raid (as opposed to the last one, and the one before that) is actually engaging and fun. As someone who didn't play ff11 in its prime and doesn't care about it now, the scenery pics from this raid look gorgeous. But good scenery isn't enough. Please tell me they learned something from how hard euphro and thaleia bombed.

Yeah, I think most FFXI players probably would've preferred gear that they actually wore back in the day. Lots of people have posted gear they wanted to see in this thread, but I don't think anybody said the Ark Angel gear. I mentioned earlier it was just added as glamour gear to FFXI in the last couple months, nobody has fond memories of wearing it (yet?). I don't think it's bad but there were better options for sure. And also I think we all wanted them to drop the rigid way they reuse gear for different jobs and actually have at least 7 different sets. FFXI gear is going to be pretty samey anyway so it'd probably just be different textures, but we didn't get that either.

[OgruMogru]

Is the armour definitely role locked? Am I stewing in complete delusional fiction hoping these will all work like the 2b coffer? The answer is probably yes [to the delusional part] >:C

[Elkanah]

Is the armour definitely role locked? Am I stewing in complete delusional fiction hoping these will all work like the 2b coffer? The answer is probably yes [to the delusional part] >:C

They're probably role locked based on the jobs and types they were in XI as the Ark Angels of Apathy, Arrogance, Cowardice, Envy, and Rage
Hume - WAR/NIN
Mithra - BST/THF
Galka - SAM/DRG
Tarutaru - BLM/DRK
Elvaan - PLD/WHM

With the Image by Fawkes (assuming they're sticking somewhat to the order of the gear in the picture), and being that they can't have two sets per classes:
(left to right)
Male Vierra: Aiming set most likely
Miqote: Scouting set (based on bst/THF)
Lalafell: Casters set (based on BLM/drk)
Elezen: Healing set (based on pld/WHM)
Hyur: Fending set (based on WAR/nin)
Au Ra: Maiming set (cause striking set is taken by Roe)
Roegadyn: Striking set (based on SAM/drg)

[Fawkes]

The most fun fact about Shadowlord is that in his transition cutscene to phase 2, on the PS2 which the game was originally coded and engine built for, he has dark purple flames coat him in that black. It's an effect they could never get the PC port to faithfully recreate, so no player that played on PC only their whole life has ever seen it in game.

That fact wasn't fun at all!

But I did find a video of it on twitter.

I wonder if they'll recreate this for the raid on PS4/PS5 only

[Windfire]

Wow that gear is ugly as heck, is that really best they could do? Aren't there any better looking sets in FF11? (no clue as I've never played it)

[Daralii]

I remember trying to play FF11 back in the day, and pretty much got trapped in Jeuno because that was when you had to party up just to kill basic mobs, you were at the level range where dying could cause de-leveling, and if you weren't the "correct" race and job combinations, you'd be left LFG literally all day long. I made the mistake of starting as a Mithra Red Mage, and the whole game just fell apart around me after reaching Jeuno.

So yeah... unfortunately I don't have fond memories of that game, and I haven't touched it in over 20 years, so this raid series not only falls flat for me but I'm kinda soured on it in general.

The majority of the game's been soloable for a very long time(probably about a decade at least) because you can form a full party of trusts almost everywhere to complement whatever job you're playing.

[Elkanah]

I remember trying to play FF11 back in the day, and pretty much got trapped in Jeuno because that was when you had to party up just to kill basic mobs, you were at the level range where dying could cause de-leveling, and if you weren't the "correct" race and job combinations, you'd be left LFG literally all day long. I made the mistake of starting as a Mithra Red Mage, and the whole game just fell apart around me after reaching Jeuno.

So yeah... unfortunately I don't have fond memories of that game, and I haven't touched it in over 20 years, so this raid series not only falls flat for me but I'm kinda soured on it in general.

The mistake wasnt mithra-- cause honestly, anyone would tell you that race didnt matter (it didnt matter then, and doesnt matter now). It was starting as a mage job that required 95% gearing and having specific items and spells all the way up to 70 (not too mention the worst Maat fight in the game by far).

[Swad]

RDMs were gods, completely replacing WHM in party leveling content. Could solo from 18-25 skipping qufim with silence and burn on worms. You could DUO with a BLM killing beastmen pets and mobs weak to gravity all the way to 75 never touching a 6 person party. Not to mention being a Mithra you had the world at your fingertips and tons of guys willing to give you free stuff.