Rokien's new thread on Hamlet Defense

[Dragon]

You guys actually wanted this to be like campaign which nobody used except for some bad exp when they couldn't get a party?

If it was so easy like campaign was in FFXI that it didn't take any coordination or anything SE wouldn't give any worthwhile rewards out of it and people wouldn't do it unless they needed exp and couldn't get a party and were out of leves.

I enjoyed Campaign, quite frankly, which certainly took more skill and coordination than any guildleves ever will.

I remember the gear you could buy with the allied notes was pretty bad, and below salvage / sky / king / nyzul / gear when it came out most people at 75 didn't bother with it unless they were trying for some crappy exp or rank up for wotg missions then never touched it. Also most of the items had a condition only does X in campaign. They didn't add random chests to it for junk logs, 1 or 2 dynamis currency until a couple patchs later.

Are you serious? Campaign gear was at the very least on par with everything that was both craftable and high-end for most jobs.

[Zumi]

I enjoyed Campaign, quite frankly, which certainly took more skill and coordination than any guildleves ever will.



Are you serious? Campaign gear was at the very least on par with everything that was both craftable and high-end for most jobs.

No it wasn't. Did you not do endgame? Salvage, sky, einherjar, kings? For example monk, sam, nin, didn't beat stuff like usu set. War had their adaman hauberk, byakkyo, haidate, certain ares set pieces. There was nothing from campaign that was even close to an upgrade to already released current end game items.

[Dragon]

No it wasn't. Did you not do endgame? Salvage, sky, einherjar, kings? For example monk, sam, nin, didn't beat stuff like usu set. War had their adaman hauberk, byakkyo, haidate, certain ares set pieces. There was nothing from campaign that was even close to an upgrade to already released current end game items.

Talk about a failure to understand what is being said; I specifically stated: "...BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END."


BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

BOTH CRAFTABLE AND HIGH-END!

...for MOST jobs, too.

AKA, craftable as an AH-able for the simple-minded freaks out there.

/headdesk

[Volsung]

No it wasn't. Did you not do endgame? Salvage, sky, einherjar, kings? For example monk, sam, nin, didn't beat stuff like usu set. War had their adaman hauberk, byakkyo, haidate, certain ares set pieces. There was nothing from campaign that was even close to an upgrade to already released current end game items.

While I agree that a large portion was not amazing lots of it was situationally amazing. The conserve mp mage sets and store tp light DD set with lots of acc fit in many places. DNC got lots of love from that store tp set and healer sch/whm loved that conserve mp set

Besides who is to say we'll even have good rewards on here? or wont

[Exn]

Whoa, why'd this get moved...?

The truth hurts.. I know.

[Dragon]

Whoa, why'd this get moved...?

The truth hurts.. I know.

Good question...

[eagleone]

Good question...

Hidden away????

[Nabiri]

I was getting so pumped about Hamlet Defense, till I read this.....

really, only 8 people AND INSTANCED!

SE I thought we went over this whole instanced thing already. We want open world stuff.

We shouldn't need to form a party, it should just be max 20 people sign up(form a party if you want). With instanced mobs. Ya know, like with leves and stuff.

Yeah, I was kind of excited for this. I thought "Finally, my kind of content!"
But it turns out I was wrong.

I didn't expect it to be so few people allowed to join. I was picturing a mini "Besieged" like thing from XI where a good number of people could join as they wish (20-30ish max maybe). Not 8-person party content again.
Not complaining, it's just "Oh well, it's not for me" content again.

I thought it was something we could just head over there and join, but it sounds like we'll need a group. Once the excitement of it dies down I doubt there will be many people waiting there to sign up.

Again, "Oh well~" Another something I probably won't do.

Edit: I totally understand if this is something they can't do before 2.0. I do hope in 2.0 we get some interesting open-world content though.

[Exn]

Yeah, I was kind of excited for this. I thought "Finally, my kind of content!"
But it turns out I was wrong.

I didn't expect it to be so few people allowed to join. I was picturing a mini "Besieged" like thing from XI where a good number of people could join as they wish (20-30ish max maybe). Not 8-person party content again.
Not complaining, it's just "Oh well, it's not for me" content again.

I thought it was something we could just head over there and join, but it sounds like we'll need a group. Once the excitement of it dies down I doubt there will be many people waiting there to sign up.

Again, "Oh well~" Another something I probably won't do.

Yep. I'm also a little worried now because if this isn't sposed to be the larger scale PvE we we're told was coming.. then what exactly is.. I can't do a 8man instance-hoping game for much longer.

[Nabiri]

Yep. I'm also a little worried now because if this isn't sposed to be the larger scale PvE we we're told was coming.. then what exactly is.. I can't do a 8man instance-hoping game for much longer.

It could be that this isn't possible until 2.0. :\ Pre-2.0 is really messed up. lol