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  1. #11
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    AmiableApkallu's Avatar
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    Wow. Imagine being so clueless and disrespectful that you'd rather blame things on someone's "generation" rather than their ability to ask a basic question like, "Wait, I don't understand, what do you mean?"
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    I mean, at some point you have to assume people have a basic degree of understanding of the world around them.

    If they are not familiar with these widely used terms, they can also research them on their own. They grew up with Google, they can figure it out.
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    If someone don't know what CW or CCW is, they should stop playing video games and hit the books, or maybe trying to learn more about life skill.
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    Last edited by Raven2014; 11-01-2024 at 01:15 PM.

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    Dru Hutton
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    But analogue clocks exists on phones rather than just a digital representation this is also true of many smart watches. Clockwise/counter clockwise exist for simple things such as using a screwdriver, turning a door knob/handle, gears, robotics and even fans. The terms are used in sport, maths and meteorology and many other applications. I find that quite utterly bizarre that it isnt known.
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    I can't believe what I just read. I'm a young millennial and I know what a damn clock is. People ten years younger know what a clock is. This isn't a generational gap, it's a gaping void of education in NA.
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    Oh I know what clockwise/counter/anti means, it's just I am bad with abbrev. Our country has so many abbrev. term that I have trouble remembering them all. I just ask what's the abbrev. for and yeah, ok after that.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Clockwise and anticlockwise are such basic concepts in talking about movement that even if the concept of an analogue clock was completely lost (which it isn't yet), we would still need to call it something – so clockwise it is, unless you want to go back to "deasil and widdershins".


    I learned the term "deasil" from Golden Sun – it was instructions to solving a puzzle and I had to look it up in a dictionary – and it still pops up in my mind when I get similar instructions, most recently the statue puzzle at Aloalo Island. And then I think how much people would lose their minds over it here after the fuss about "larboard".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Clockwise and anticlockwise are such basic concepts in talking about movement that even if the concept of an analogue clock was completely lost (which it isn't yet), we would still need to call it something – so clockwise it is...
    If anything I would even say the classic clock is one of the things that will NEVER disappear.
    Even the most modern digital watches often simulate them. It’s just a perfect design.

    I agree with all the others here.
    Don’t design the game for the lowest point of players. Somewhere there has to be a line that shouldn’t be crossed.
    If I don’t know a term then I look it up and by not enabling ignorance maybe that can even help some people because no one is automatically stupid.

    Also about things like that not being teached anymore.
    In my country it is learned in child care and many math problems in the first or second year of school are made out of clock questions and even if not it is your responsibility as a parent to teach your kids basic stuff.

    This is not a generational topic but one of ignorance.
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    Whilst I can understand...

    But none of this precludes common courtesy of just simply asking "Can you clarify what you mean please?"

    Also the problem with factoring in generational differences too much when developing content or encounters in any form is that you're only inevitably limiting creativity, because you're then actively seeking for reasons why something should not be developed, as opposed to why they should develop it. Equally, still including them in video games is a nice way to make them educational and informative whilst being a fun hobby.

    Just ask people.. I don't get why people don't just do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majatok View Post
    So if "clockwise" causes confusion you can say "go from North to East","South to West" etc. instead.
    If people can connect words to compass directions, they can learn what "clockwise" means.
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