Healer/Tank Anxiety - Does it Ever Go Away?

[Gurgeh]

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"You pull, you tank" is a garbage mindset no aspiring tank should ever have.
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I agree. Although, if you are healer or DPS pulling on a sprout that's unkind. And if you wipe, you ought to apologise. And if you do it to the sprout tank again, then your an A-hole.
But even when you are Tank tanking, its the healer who's job gets harder not yours. If you are DPS tanking... its the healers job that gets harder not yours or the tanks much.

So if your a DPS pulling that's fine. But if it goes wrong don't you dare complain or act like anyone else fell short when there is whipe. So DPS its your right to pull, but only if your cool wiping again.. and again... and again (which your probably not). I love a wipe in a dungeon. But I'd have limits, that were never tested while I still played.

So, only the healer (not even the tank) can get on a podium and claim "I have a RIGHT to pull however I want and F the rest of you!"

[MrKusabi]

I agree. Although, if you are healer or DPS pulling on a sprout that's unkind. And if you wipe, you ought to apologise. And if you do it to the sprout tank again, then your an A-hole.
But even when you are Tank tanking, its the healer who's job gets harder not yours. If you are DPS tanking... its the healers job that gets harder not yours or the tanks much.

So if your a DPS pulling that's fine. But if it goes wrong don't you dare complain or act like anyone else fell short when there is whipe. So DPS its your right to pull, but only if your cool wiping again.. and again... and again (which your probably not). I love a wipe in a dungeon. But I'd have limits, that were never tested while I still played.

So, only the healer (not even the tank) can get on a podium and claim "I have a RIGHT to pull however I want and F the rest of you!"

Eh, I get that. That's a lot more reasonable than how I originally interpreted it. My apologies if I came across a bit hostile. I've had tanks murder me before for daring to be a step ahead, even when I used my whole DPS kit. I do maintain it is majority rule, not any one role, since if everyone is doing their best no one would be too far behind anyone else, but it is important to read the group (like you said, don't push a sprout too hard if you've already failed).

[Gurgeh]

Eh, I get that. That's a lot more reasonable than how I originally interpreted it. My apologies if I came across a bit hostile. I've had tanks murder me before for daring to be a step ahead, even when I used my whole DPS kit. I do maintain it is majority rule, not any one role, since if everyone is doing their best no one would be too far behind anyone else, but it is important to read the group (like you said, don't push a sprout too hard if you've already failed).

Yeah I know. I could see maybe you misinterpreted or I miscommunicated, and that's noone's fault. The golden rule with dungeons for me is... that no matter what happens... and how badly it goes wrong.. DPS pulling or whatever... 'it's just a dungeon'

If your going to get all arsey with your expectations, standards and rules... save it for your Ultimate static. (That static that's probably had 6 healers 4 tanks , 8 DPS, and still not got past five minutes.)
It's just a dungeon!

Except people rushing and ruining mine or other people's first time MSQ runs. I get real arsey about that.

[MrKusabi]

... The golden rule with dungeons for me is... that no matter what happens... and how badly it goes wrong.. DPS pulling or whatever... 'it's just a dungeon' ...

Haha, true! FFXIV has so little punishment for death. Some of the best runs I've had are ones that went a bit sideways. It's important to remember this is a game. Just...have fun.

This is giving me ideas for a future PLD or WAR glam. I'm tempted to buy the princess gown on the online store now.

My original DRK glam when I was a tiny Au Ra was basically this. Be the Princess Peach you always wanted to be!