Quote Originally Posted by Voidmage View Post
The difference is though that the WoL is the player character. Yes they are a Mary sue but also the avatar of the player in a jrpg.
Wuk Lamat is the mirror of the WoL and would have been fine in her own game or a side story but here you have a main character that does main character things in a game that already has a main character while pushing the player character aside

Her self confidence has no catalyst to be overcome it just happens as well as her physical growth. It’s just there suddenly.
I don’t disagree that she had some kind of difference between the start of DT and the end but the progress was just not there.

If we call the WoL a Mary sue then we can also do that for Wuk Lamat because both are the same.
I really think she being the mirror of the WoL was even the intention of the writers.

A Mary sue is not necessarily a bad tool for a story but it has to fit and the only reason it works for the WoL is because they are the silent avatar of the player.
About the WoL - our journey had us grow as a character over 10 years.

Wuk is someone written to have barely left the palace, yet after being a dimwit for 2 patches and having everyone around her solve her problems for her, she can believe in herself and fall through a dimensional rift she randomly finds and outdamage in one attack the work of 8 WoL's over the prior 10 minutes. It's so eyerolling.