Competence Check for Group Content

[NightHour]

I like the updates to Hall of the Novice but I have a few gripes with it.


1. Why is it unlocked at level 49 and is it not automatically unlocked?
2. Why isn't it mandatory for MSQ progression?


They should add it as an early part of the MSQ, make it a mandatory thing to complete and it should happen BEFORE the quest for Sastasha so new players go in to content with the knowledge.

Hall of the Novice completion should be mandatory.


People who skip should have to do Hall of the Novice before being allowed to queue for group content UNLESS they already have a character at maximum level.


So many times do I see Physick spamming Scholars, Cure bot White Mages or perma GCD shielding Sages in level 100 content.



If you're on a ranged class you should also have a lesson about distance based bait mechanics.

[Shuuchi]

Oh, I didn't know Hall of the Novice was level 49.
If that's true, it definitely should be changed to before Sastasha, haha.

I was thinking it should be mandatory for every class or role.
Or if not mandatory, maybe adding a worthwhile reward would be good.
After all, someone with a max level PLD would still benefit from learning about healing.

[Kuroka]

Oh, I didn't know Hall of the Novice was level 49.
If that's true, it definitely should be changed to before Sastasha, haha.

Before Sastasha is pointless as there are just too few skills... about 30 and 50 should work best. It should be "get your jobcrystal and do this quest!" followed by "Now youre grown up and gotta learn that!"

Its a joke the game tags players as new ALL THE WAY to Solution 9 and further... youre not new after Heavensward, even less Endwalker...

[AnjouMaaka]

You get access to the Hall of the Novice very near the same time you unlock Sastasha. What they are doing is adding new pieces of teaching content to it that unlocks at level 49. You will still get the baby easy mode ones before entering Sastasha.

I think making them mandatory is a good idea. That would definitely give players no excuse for failing at some of the most basic commonly used mechanics, like stacks and spreads.

[Shuuchi]

Before Sastasha is pointless as there are just too few skills... about 30 and 50 should work best. It should be "get your jobcrystal and do this quest!" followed by "Now youre grown up and gotta learn that!"

Its a joke the game tags players as new ALL THE WAY to Solution 9 and further... youre not new after Heavensward, even less Endwalker...

Oh yes, definitely. Lvl 30 is great since it’s a major milestone similar to lvl 15.
Though the game does have pop up tutorials, people can and will ignore them.
It would be a good time to nip a few issues in the bud before they proliferate, like a lvl 30 PLD spamming Rage of Halone without the first two actions.

On the subject of high level players, I think there should be some kind of resource available (maybe at the max level of each expansion) for returning players or those who need a brush up on a class they haven’t played in a long time.
Whether it be a NIN that doesn’t know about Ninjutsu, SAM that doesn’t know about Iai, or WHM that doesn’t know about Holy, it’s neither fun for the player (at least I hope that’s the case) nor fair for others in the party.

[Arohk]

1. Why is it unlocked at level 49 and is it not automatically unlocked?
2. Why isn't it mandatory for MSQ progression?


They should add it as an early part of the MSQ, make it a mandatory thing to complete and it should happen BEFORE the quest for Sastasha so new players go in to content with the knowledge.

there would be no reason to do that, the very low level dungeons don't have any mechanics like party stacks or towers to stand in.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

I like the updates to Hall of the Novice but I have a few gripes with it.


1. Why is it unlocked at level 49 and is it not automatically unlocked?
2. Why isn't it mandatory for MSQ progression?
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It's unlocked at 49 because that's when the AOE markers first appear?

[Eastwall]

2. Why isn't it mandatory for MSQ progression?

Probably they don't want to repeat the disaster from the mist of pandaria's proving ground