Competence Check for Group Content

[Shuuchi]

I understand SE is adding mechanic visuals to the Hall of the Novice.
I think there are a lot more that can be added.
Maybe a short test for when you hit max level with every class per expansion to get used to the new skills would be good to have as well.

Here are a few things I thought of, having observed mid to high level players in group content over the years as well as after reminiscing the days when I was new.
Do you have anything to add? Or perhaps my ideas are bad? What are your thoughts?

Tanks:

• Using defensive skills properly
• Using Reprisal and Arms-length
• Using invulnerability skills
• Using combo attacks

Healers:

• Using cooldowns
• Using damage skills, while also healing
• Using better/upgraded spells instead of Cure/Physick/Benefic/Diagnosis
• Mana management, as a addendum of the point above
• The different philosophies between heal (reactive) and shield (proactive) healers
• Using Esuna (DT healer role-quest does this but it needs to be a LOT sooner)

DPSes:

• Using combo attacks
• Using positional attacks
• Using cooldowns
• Reinforce explanations for class gimmicks, especially for NIN, SAM, BLM and RDM
• Using Feint, Addle and ranged phys defensives

Cheers, and have a good day.

[NightHour]

I like the updates to Hall of the Novice but I have a few gripes with it.


1. Why is it unlocked at level 49 and is it not automatically unlocked?
2. Why isn't it mandatory for MSQ progression?


They should add it as an early part of the MSQ, make it a mandatory thing to complete and it should happen BEFORE the quest for Sastasha so new players go in to content with the knowledge.

Hall of the Novice completion should be mandatory.


People who skip should have to do Hall of the Novice before being allowed to queue for group content UNLESS they already have a character at maximum level.


So many times do I see Physick spamming Scholars, Cure bot White Mages or perma GCD shielding Sages in level 100 content.



If you're on a ranged class you should also have a lesson about distance based bait mechanics.

[Shuuchi]

Oh, I didn't know Hall of the Novice was level 49.
If that's true, it definitely should be changed to before Sastasha, haha.

I was thinking it should be mandatory for every class or role.
Or if not mandatory, maybe adding a worthwhile reward would be good.
After all, someone with a max level PLD would still benefit from learning about healing.

[Arohk]

1. Why is it unlocked at level 49 and is it not automatically unlocked?
2. Why isn't it mandatory for MSQ progression?


They should add it as an early part of the MSQ, make it a mandatory thing to complete and it should happen BEFORE the quest for Sastasha so new players go in to content with the knowledge.

there would be no reason to do that, the very low level dungeons don't have any mechanics like party stacks or towers to stand in.

[PorxiesRCute]

?? Hall of the Novice is definitely available before level 49. You even get level 15 gear as a reward for completing it.

[Valence]

Competence checks used to be called Fausts back then..

[Masekase_Hurricane]

I like the updates to Hall of the Novice but I have a few gripes with it.


1. Why is it unlocked at level 49 and is it not automatically unlocked?
2. Why isn't it mandatory for MSQ progression?
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It's unlocked at 49 because that's when the AOE markers first appear?

[Kuroka]

Oh, I didn't know Hall of the Novice was level 49.
If that's true, it definitely should be changed to before Sastasha, haha.

Before Sastasha is pointless as there are just too few skills... about 30 and 50 should work best. It should be "get your jobcrystal and do this quest!" followed by "Now youre grown up and gotta learn that!"

Its a joke the game tags players as new ALL THE WAY to Solution 9 and further... youre not new after Heavensward, even less Endwalker...

[AnjouMaaka]

You get access to the Hall of the Novice very near the same time you unlock Sastasha. What they are doing is adding new pieces of teaching content to it that unlocks at level 49. You will still get the baby easy mode ones before entering Sastasha.

I think making them mandatory is a good idea. That would definitely give players no excuse for failing at some of the most basic commonly used mechanics, like stacks and spreads.

[Shuuchi]

Before Sastasha is pointless as there are just too few skills... about 30 and 50 should work best. It should be "get your jobcrystal and do this quest!" followed by "Now youre grown up and gotta learn that!"

Its a joke the game tags players as new ALL THE WAY to Solution 9 and further... youre not new after Heavensward, even less Endwalker...

Oh yes, definitely. Lvl 30 is great since it’s a major milestone similar to lvl 15.
Though the game does have pop up tutorials, people can and will ignore them.
It would be a good time to nip a few issues in the bud before they proliferate, like a lvl 30 PLD spamming Rage of Halone without the first two actions.

On the subject of high level players, I think there should be some kind of resource available (maybe at the max level of each expansion) for returning players or those who need a brush up on a class they haven’t played in a long time.
Whether it be a NIN that doesn’t know about Ninjutsu, SAM that doesn’t know about Iai, or WHM that doesn’t know about Holy, it’s neither fun for the player (at least I hope that’s the case) nor fair for others in the party.