Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
This whole “everyone gets points but you don’t have to agree with if they are spent fairly” argument implies that everyone’s “utility” is getting taxed as number of points. If phys ranged have to suffer 10-15% as a damage penalty for their ranged why is VPR not taxed the same, hell why is ranged as a concept even taxed when the melees can drop dozens of GCD’s and still out DPS the ranged. Same as the tanks vs healers. What did the healers “buy” with their 40% less damage than the tanks when the tanks can heal with no penalty

This isn’t hush people unhappy with the allocation of points for their class this is a mathematical imbalance that isn’t remotely justified because it’s intentional balance decisions they force on the classes while providing no justification

Because you missed about half the point I was making.

You're talking as if every point is equal. A mage who has 20 pts in STR doesn't mean they gonna swing their stave as hard as a war who has 20 pts in STR.

You can argue that it's dumb to put 20 pts in STR on a mage, I'm just saying you're not gonna get a refund on those points no matter how dump you think it is.

The point is, to have Raise on their bar, a certain number of points was invested there, and those points had to come from somewhere else. It doesn't matter how much you want to argue the merit of verraise, even if going as far as you never gonna use it, you still not gonna get a refund on those point unless the ability is actually removed from the job.