Giving up

[Thurmnmurmn]

Considering he is one of the very few white knights still left on this forum, he made it up.

Nah, he didn't make them up. They're just old and outdated now. Like this game.

[bp_isa_ff]

I'm on Aether. Supposedly the raid DC. It's just bad. Gave up getting my weekly clears. Couldn't manage to fill a party last week, not even gonna try this week...

Aether is only notably better than the other NA DCs for *joining* parties, party leaders still wait hours.

[Striker44]

How many of those 150 parties actually filled. That’s their entire point

You can have 1500 active parties it doesn’t matter if all are a PCT, 2 random melees and maybe a tank waiting to fill for 4 hours before disbanding

If the parties were all like 1 or 2 people looking to put together an entire group (as you mention), that would mean something. But it's not. We posted around about it here in the "Healer strike" thread and noted how most of the groups were only looking for 1 or 2 people (typically either a Tank, a Healer, or interestingly a Tank+DPS). When the large majority of those PF groups are just missing one person, that's a ton of people still interested in doing PF. That is the entire point. But way to create a strawman scenario - it says the underlying attempt at a point isn't valid.

Source? Because that retention, when we know barely antyhing about that and only SE has the data seems like wishful thinking at best. Especially when anyone can go to steamcharts and find that the average population right now is below/equal to the one we can find during EW patch lull, let alone how this is happening when we are not even one full patch into the expansion which is quite telling.

Source for what? The %'s are based on the Steam charts that, as you mentioned, anyone can view...

Also, remember that EW dropped in the middle of the "WoW Exodus," so the pure population #'s for the beginning of EW and its first patch cycle or so are inflated with people who were never likely to stick around that long, anyway. A better comparison will be around the time we hit the .2 patch and comparing it to the similar EW numbers, since by then the "WoW Exodus" had run its course.

Considering he is one of the very few white knights still left on this forum, he made it up.

Nice ad hominem . Meanwhile, the person you even responded to pointed out the source in their own comment...*shakes head in disbelief*

Nah, he didn't make them up. They're just old and outdated now. Like this game.

How are they outdated? Seriously, like - basic logic here. How is using the current data #'s and comparing them to the equivalent data #'s for the past two expansions "old"? *Shakes head even more profoundly*

[Thurmnmurmn]

How are they outdated? Seriously, like - basic logic here. How is using the current data #'s and comparing them to the equivalent data #'s for the past two expansions "old"? *Shakes head even more profoundly*

Your DT numbers are. You used September's numbers when the last 30 days shows even more of a drop off (even at the time you originally posted).
Currently using steam charts it shows 43.61% player count compared to DT launch.
I've also pointed out to you before that this doesn't signify retention since we don't know that's it's the same players returning.

[Eastwall]

It took me 80 hours to clear p3s in pf. I quit after that, but it is a good thing that l really like crystalline conflict. I still enjoy the game to this day.

[Sensui]

Only logged in this week to reclaim my medium house bid fail Gil. Been having a blast playing Silent Hill 2 remake!

[AnnRam]

Please look forward and stay tuned(subbed) until the big update coming in January 2025!

[Striker44]

Your DT numbers are. You used September's numbers when the last 30 days shows even more of a drop off (even at the time you originally posted).
Currently using steam charts it shows 43.61% player count compared to DT launch.
I've also pointed out to you before that this doesn't signify retention since we don't know that's it's the same players returning.

No, they're not. That's not how basic stat comparisons work. I'm comparing the month of release for each xpac (DT/EW/ShB) against the #'s for each of the next two months. For DT, the release month is July 2024, so the next two months are August 2024 and September 2024. Using the "last 30 days" would include some of the 3rdmonth post-release for DT (October) but not for the other two expansions (which also both released within the first week of their respective release months).

Once October's data is finalized, we will be able to accurately compare the 3rd month post-release for all three expansions.

The "same players returning" thing is also irrelevant because we can't "know" that for any of the other expansions, either. Not to mention that all that really matters here, anyway, is the total number of people logging in. The best we can do is make the best comparisons we can using the data we have available, which in this case is the data we're discussing here.

[Krojack]

Redundant theme but posting anyway. Giving up Savage for now. Waiting 4 hours for a party to fill is just wasting too much time when I could just be doing anything else with my life. I used to not be a doom and gloomer, but this tier has been bad for Party Finder, and there's nothing else to do. Questioning whether to stay subbed or not.. makes me sad to just pay a sub to keep housing. Just thought everyone should know. Not feelin' it lately.

And I know someone who is struggling to find 1 person to fill their 2 nights a week static.

[Mijeme]

This is the 2nd complaint you made in a day. When you leave can I have your stuff?