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    Yes, you're actively avoiding that I point out you're comparing apple and oranges.

    That's what I'm criticizing and you try your best to avoid it.
    I'm not arguing about an hypothetical scenario wether people would leave the game or not.
    I'm merely pointing out the differences between the WoW Tank situation and the XIV Tank situation.

    You're actively dodging it because you know your argument falls flat, exodus or not.
    Who's doing gymnastics here? Because that's a crazy amount of rolling you're doing here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    Yes, you're actively avoiding that I point out you're comparing apple and oranges.

    That's what I'm criticizing and you try your best to avoid it.
    I'm not arguing about an hypothetical scenario wether people would leave the game or not.
    I'm merely pointing out the differences between the WoW Tank situation and the XIV Tank situation.

    You're actively dodging it because you know your argument falls flat, exodus or not.
    Who's doing gymnastics here? Because that's a crazy amount of rolling you're doing here.
    No we get that, what we are saying is that point alone isn’t an argument either way in the original discussion you added yourself to.

    If you have a stance on Anjou’s point (or the wider issue) then you need to explain why “apples to oranges” backs up your point in any way because right now you aren’t even making a point
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    No we get that, what we are saying is that point alone isn’t an argument either way in the original discussion you added yourself to.

    If you have a stance on Anjou’s point (or the wider issue) then you need to explain why “apples to oranges” backs up your point in any way because right now you aren’t even making a point
    Cool, I don't have anything to had on Anjou's point and never had. Only wanted to put thing back in context of the WoW tank status and XIV tank status.
    Only adding information then Terhix has been arguing that the two events "are similar".

    You already know my stance, I've defending that even if your nerf Bloodwhetting it wouldn't change a thing tank or healer wise.
    On top of that it's pointless to argue about an hypothetical scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    Cool, I don't have anything to had on Anjou's point and never had. Only wanted to put thing back in context of the WoW tank status and XIV tank status.
    Only adding information then Terhix has been arguing that the two events "are similar".

    You already know my stance, I've defending that even if your nerf Bloodwhetting it wouldn't change a thing tank or healer wise.
    On top of that it's pointless to argue about an hypothetical scenario.
    Okay let’s try this again

    If your point is that nerfing BW won’t actually improve anyone’s situation in the game and only lead to negatives because in your eyes it makes tanks less fun while not making healers any more fun (which multiple healer mains have stated isn’t the case as a nerf to BW would improve their time playing with a WAR) then how does the WOW situation in any way support your point given it hasn’t led to a reduction in playerbase in WOW and was positively received by healers

    Following this given you mentioned apples to oranges as a means of saying the WOW situation is different what is it about the WOW situation that makes it different? If we were to implement the same style of nerfs as the WOW devs did in their explanation of why they did them then why would that lead to a different result than what it did in WOW?

    This is what you aren’t explaining
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess