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    Quote Originally Posted by Carighan View Post
    Absorbs are a type of mitigation. Please stop intentionally misunderstanding simple sentences.
    You clearly have never seen this video. Please watch it and straighten out your tank knowledge.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCEovQvASsY
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    You clearly have never seen this video. Please watch it and straighten out your tank knowledge.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCEovQvASsY
    "nuh uh my favorite streamer said so" sure is an argument.

    And damn couldn't you pick a better e-celeb to simp for? Xenos has horrible takes on almost everything.
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    Anjou just feels like a troll account, come to think of it. Just look through their post history, they only have "hot takes" such as this "hp absorbs aren't mitigation" (even though they are) or "1-2-3 combos should not exist as the game is too easy already" (even though the actual devs clearly disagree).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carighan View Post
    Anjou just feels like a troll account, come to think of it. Just look through their post history, they only have "hot takes" such as this "hp absorbs aren't mitigation" (even though they are) or "1-2-3 combos should not exist as the game is too easy already" (even though the actual devs clearly disagree).
    What's funnier is if you actually watch that video Xeno spends most of the beginning at least (didn't bother to continue) arguing that TBN isn't a heal (which it obviously isn't) and his beef is that certain website with numbers clumps absorbs (really all mits) into healing. The fact that he splits what he calls "shielding" from "mitigation" is fine if you consider the math is different on absorb vs %DR. His labeling is just wrong, but that's not even the point he was trying to make with the video lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    You clearly have never seen this video. Please watch it and straighten out your tank knowledge.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCEovQvASsY
    "BUT MUH FAVURIT STREAMZ0R DISAGREEZ"

    So what about all the other streamers, players and developers and the other 30 years of MMORPG design where hp absorbs are mitigation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carighan View Post
    "BUT MUH FAVURIT STREAMZ0R DISAGREEZ"

    So what about all the other streamers, players and developers and the other 30 years of MMORPG design where hp absorbs are mitigation?
    Regurgitating the previous post with brain damaged takes like that are exactly the reason dark knight is in the state it's in. I doubt you so much as watched more than 5 seconds because you hate Xenos and refuse to watch anything the bald man has to say. He wouldn't be the legend he is if the guides he makes were misinformation. You're inability to comprehend the difference only shows that you have never so much as touched a tank job an any MMORPG
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carighan View Post
    Anjou just feels like a troll account, come to think of it. Just look through their post history, they only have "hot takes" such as this "hp absorbs aren't mitigation" (even though they are) or "1-2-3 combos should not exist as the game is too easy already" (even though the actual devs clearly disagree).
    And you can't even quote correctly. I said 1-2-3 should NOT be combined like the OP is asking for. Healers want a 1-2-3 combo and gripe about not getting one every expansion now. But both thoughts are seriously brain damaged takes that come from having never touched savage raids. Do the content the job balance is based on, and you will get to use everything that is not situational buttons. I don't want tanking to be easier. But at the same time, it no longer makes sense for dark knight be exempt from the "able to solo dungeons" club. Really picked the wrong raid tier to be arguing as if being an astrologian main makes you an authority figure on tanking. Dark Knight defensives are in a bad state and are the only part of the job that needs to be addressed right now. Wide consensus on:

    Dark Mind getting the Addle treatment (mits physical damage at half value)
    Oblation receiving a regen
    Abyssal Drain being untied from Carve And Spit
    TBN applying a regen when the shield is broken

    ^ These are healthy for the game and adhere to the design direction SE has gone with for tanks without being brokenly overpowered.

    What I'm surprised they haven't done thanks to the ratio of good healers vs bad healers:

    Made Raw Intuition a tank role ability
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    Healers want a 1-2-3 combo and gripe about not getting one every expansion now.
    In the great Wikipedia tradition: [citation needed].

    A fair number of healers want more interesting ways of dealing damage without being locked into rigid damage combos. A rigid 1-2-3 is just as boring as 1-1-1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu View Post
    In the great Wikipedia tradition: [citation needed].

    A fair number of healers want more interesting ways of dealing damage without being locked into rigid damage combos. A rigid 1-2-3 is just as boring as 1-1-1.
    And again, the content they want this for is dungeons. If they want to press more buttons, then there is content in the game for that. But they don't want to because they are hypocrites and want content not designed for that to be brought up to the content that is balance wise, with no regard for how the game actually works, nor what would be healthy for the game moving forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    And again, the content they want this for is dungeons. If they want to press more buttons, then there is content in the game for that. But they don't want to because they are hypocrites and want content not designed for that to be brought up to the content that is balance wise, with no regard for how the game actually works, nor what would be healthy for the game moving forward.
    I spend 85% of my GCD’s in savage pressing broil. If anything my most diverse button press (even with a WAR) is in dungeons because at least I have broil and AOW
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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