Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

[Midare]

I might be missing a joke or whatnot, but it’s Gosetsu, not Gogetsu

I'll go an step further and correct here too.

It's not Gosetsu, it's Brosetsu.

[Fatch38]

I'll go an step further and correct here too.

It's not Gosetsu, it's Brosetsu.

you both are wrong, it's Goatetsu

[Hallarem]

you both are wrong, it's Goatetsu

Brotetsus, I too am starting to feel like Dawntrail was Wrotetsu by AI.

[Voidmage]

I don't know - I still look back very fondly on 'A Requiem for Heroes'. I really enjoyed that part of it.

To be completely fair in this case that was a patch.
Maybe 7.3 upwards the story will pick up again, at least I hope so.

Still I agree with the general opinion here that Stormblood was good looking back and the more I think about it the worse DT gets.

[MoiraTerrwell]

To be completely fair in this case that was a patch.
Maybe 7.3 upwards the story will pick up again, at least I hope so.

Still I agree with the general opinion here that Stormblood was good looking back and the more I think about it the worse DT gets.

Stormblood had issues, I barely knew Yda and I know I didn't like Lyse
(but I also didn't start in Gridania, which according to some of my friends helped knowing her and Papalymo a lot more)
And while some parts were not great, it was not as hamfisted as Dawntrail

[CNitsah]

We got more cultural exposure in the Azim Steppe than all of Tural.

This. It always makes me laugh when people try to paint dawntrail as the worldbuilding expansion. Worldbuilding is so poor in DT, and what's given to us is so weak. I'm supposed to believe the moblins that have been doing their thing for 80 years don't know you should not put people near the fire, and don't know which food they like. It just doesn't work. This is just an example but I could do that for the whole first part. The second part has a slightly better world building, but it also has plotholes and people conveniently ignoring obvious hints to force a situation.

[Allegor]

This. It always makes me laugh when people try to paint dawntrail as the worldbuilding expansion. Worldbuilding is so poor in DT, and what's given to us is so weak. I'm supposed to believe the moblins that have been doing their thing for 80 years don't know you should not put people near the fire, and don't know which food they like. It just doesn't work. This is just an example but I could do that for the whole first part. The second part has a slightly better world building, but it also has plotholes and people conveniently ignoring obvious hints to force a situation.

Like how the Hanuhanu genuinely didn't know the meaning of their festival or their boat being an aether conduit despite holding the festivity every year? Yes, they grew complacent and the boat wasn't maintained, that's info we're given to why their fields became stagnant, but here's the counterargument to that: there are people like Wuk Evu or the town leader (did she have a name?) who are fully aware what the problem is but stay silent for literally no reason, and besides, just how young are most of the Hanuhanu to not even know (not remember, know) the magic boat flares them up like a pokemon about to evolve to scatter the aether into the fields? are they all children or...?

To add insult to injury, in one of the aether current quests they do collectively play ignorant/antagonistic to teach the new guy a lesson about respect, tradition, etc. It's like both quests were written by entirely different people.

[ArcaviusGreyashe]

Like how the Hanuhanu genuinely didn't know the meaning of their festival or their boat being an aether conduit despite holding the festivity every year? Yes, they grew complacent and the boat wasn't maintained, that's info we're given to why their fields became stagnant, but here's the counterargument to that: there are people like Wuk Evu or the town leader (did she have a name?) who are fully aware what the problem is but stay silent for literally no reason, and besides, just how young are most of the Hanuhanu to not even know (not remember, know) the magic boat flares them up like a pokemon about to evolve to scatter the aether into the fields? are they all children or...?

To add insult to injury, in one of the aether current quests they do collectively play ignorant/antagonistic to teach the new guy a lesson about respect, tradition, etc. It's like both quests were written by entirely different people.

Don't know which country you're from, but I'm pretty sure you don't know the origin and meaning of every festivities in your culture, except maybe if you're from the USA, or another country which have only 300yo traditions at best... and even then, you still probably don't know most of what happened during the events you're celebrating. It's also pretty hard to believe your political leader/your top scientists aren't aware of some issues in your country you don't know about, because you knowing would not help in any way, and would only thin the trust you have in them.

Same for the Moblins really. It took more than 80 years to go from the first factories to decent work conditions.

That's just a case of "I really must find a reason to dislike that thing", and here's the thing : you don't have to have a reason. Just hate it because you don't like it. It's alright.

[CNitsah]

Don't know which country you're from, but I'm pretty sure you don't know the origin and meaning of every festivities in your culture, except maybe if you're from the USA, or another country which have only 300yo traditions at best... and even then, you still probably don't know most of what happened during the events you're celebrating. It's also pretty hard to believe your political leader/your top scientists aren't aware of some issues in your country you don't know about, because you knowing would not help in any way, and would only thin the trust you have in them.

Same for the Moblins really. It took more than 80 years to go from the first factories to decent work conditions.

That's just a case of "I really must find a reason to dislike that thing", and here's the thing : you don't have to have a reason. Just hate it because you don't like it. It's alright.

It's believable that people forgot the meaning, sure. What is not is that there is someone that knows it in the village and didn't even try to tell them when they are in a crisis.

For the more than 80 years for good work condition, it's ignoring the fact that in real world, good work condition were never a goal of the owners of the means of production. Productivity and money were. Here they tell you this is a win/win situation, but show you a highly disfunctional one.

This is just a case of "I really must find a reason to defend the thing a like" and here's the thing: you don't have reason. You just love it because you like it. It's alright.

[ReynTime]

Don't know which country you're from, but I'm pretty sure you don't know the origin and meaning of every festivities in your culture, except maybe if you're from the USA, or another country which have only 300yo traditions at best... and even then, you still probably don't know most of what happened during the events you're celebrating. It's also pretty hard to believe your political leader/your top scientists aren't aware of some issues in your country you don't know about, because you knowing would not help in any way, and would only thin the trust you have in them.

Same for the Moblins really. It took more than 80 years to go from the first factories to decent work conditions.

That's just a case of "I really must find a reason to dislike that thing", and here's the thing : you don't have to have a reason. Just hate it because you don't like it. It's alright.

I don't know about where YOU live in, but the people in charge of organizing do know the origins of their traditions, since that's typically taught in the process of becoming in charge of them.