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    It's incredible how disingenuous the forums still are thinking their small minority voice will warrant addressing anything in a LL. That echo chamber really failing yall. Stay mad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    It's incredible how disingenuous the forums still are thinking their small minority voice will warrant addressing anything in a LL. That echo chamber really failing yall. Stay mad.
    Yet here you're gloating over it and being antagonistic, another chufftey badge to display?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulH View Post
    Yet here you're gloating over it and being antagonistic, another chufftey badge to display?
    Yeah, I'm trying to fit in with the overall antagonistic vibe of the forums. The only thing that's still out of touch are the forums, as per normal.

    Forum feedback has never been valued, because it is the minority. Pretty sure with the amount of raid clears this tier, they consider DT engagement a massive success. There is nothing likely needing addressing from a numbers perspective. Not that they EVER would have intended to be like "omg, the forums are complaining, we must address immediately!!!!"

    Only terminally online folks on these forums think their toxicity is valid. Ya'll can hold this L, just like that #HeAlErStrIKE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Yeah, I'm trying to fit in with the overall antagonistic vibe of the forums. The only thing that's still out of touch are the forums, as per normal.

    Forum feedback has never been valued, because it is the minority. Pretty sure with the amount of raid clears this tier, they consider DT engagement a massive success. There is nothing likely needing addressing from a numbers perspective. Not that they EVER would have intended to be like "omg, the forums are complaining, we must address immediately!!!!"

    Only terminally online folks on these forums think their toxicity is valid. Ya'll can hold this L, just like that #HeAlErStrIKE!
    Utterly bizarre that people who share different perspectives to you is problematic and you need to reinforce gloating with utterly dreary comments. I hope people who feel lack of joy or frustration are able to find fulfilment elsewhere or reconcile their relationship with the game in a different way. You're simply unpleasant and not worth anymore of my calories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulH View Post
    I hope people who feel lack of joy or frustration are able to find fulfilment elsewhere or reconcile their relationship with the game in a different way.
    Unironically, the smartest thing you could have said. If only the forums took this stance to heart, we may actually have some productive conversation instead of harping on every single aspect of the game. With the amount of complaints on these forums, you'd swear there isn't a single redeeming quality of XIV.

    Again, stay mad that you and others didn't get their "demands" addressed. Y'all can make good on those I quit posts now while you're at it.
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    Last edited by Havenchild; 09-29-2024 at 11:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Unironically, the smartest thing you could have said. If only the forums took this stance to heart, we may actually have some productive conversation instead of harping on every single aspect of the game. With the amount of complaints on these forums, you'd swear there isn't a single redeeming quality of XIV.

    Again, stay mad that you and others didn't get their "demands" addressed. Y'all can make good on those I quit posts now while you're at it.
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulH View Post
    I am a casual player and the direction of travel isn't what I desire but I just do the minimum and play other games which is great fun and I am looking forward to PoE2.

    After they changed Scholar significantly i just moved to dps and other roles than i enjoy and just found my happy place and just accepted the game moved on. I would spend more time in 14 with stuff to do but nothing appeals and I just have put myself in my the head space of enjoy the story and the casual content and moved to jobs that I find fun.

    It is sad to see people upset about the changes or lack of things they like doing and I get the frustration. I do wish people wouldnt say uninstall or just dismiss others concerns it is dreary, unhelpful and at times can be toxic. I can only suggest as an option to play the game in a way you can still invest some time and that suits your finances as for me when the fun stops i stop and its worked out well as silly games like supermarket simulator has been fun.
    Can you please cite my demands or where I am mad.... You are very melodramatic, unpleasant and just silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulH View Post
    Can you please cite my demands or where I am mad.... You are very melodramatic, unpleasant and just silly.
    You felt the need to reply to my initial comment. That's proof something I said triggered you enough. If you are 100% ok with the game then that comment wasn't for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    What is your fix? How should they collect feedback? Just cause they don't post here doesn't mean CM are reading reporting back relevant discussions to the development team.
    I sound like a shill for stating the obvious.
    The fix is simply, devs should make the game the way they want to make it and not listen too much to the forums. Let people decide if they want to play or not. Creativity in XIV has died largely due to negative feedback from the forums.

    Majority forum feedback is not constructive, and the few threads that have been started with good premise devolve quickly into another cesspool as the bad actors flood in with their holier than thou opinions.

    The only driving force of XIV should be their engagement numbers. If that's their version of "fine" then, nothing needs to be changed. If they want more direct feedback, they should send out surveys that hit all of the playerbase to see what's the opinion of anything, and if you see that nothing has changed than that's your key to understand the majority are ok with what already is.
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    Last edited by Havenchild; 09-29-2024 at 11:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Yeah, I'm trying to fit in with the overall antagonistic vibe of the forums. The only thing that's still out of touch are the forums, as per normal.

    Forum feedback has never been valued, because it is the minority. Pretty sure with the amount of raid clears this tier, they consider DT engagement a massive success. There is nothing likely needing addressing from a numbers perspective. Not that they EVER would have intended to be like "omg, the forums are complaining, we must address immediately!!!!"

    Only terminally online folks on these forums think their toxicity is valid. Ya'll can hold this L, just like that #HeAlErStrIKE!
    Must.... crush... the minorities.

    Cannot... accept... that... people dislike what I like.

    Must... waste time... to tell strangers off for not fitting with the majority. Grrr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Must.... crush... the minorities.

    Cannot... accept... that... people dislike what I like.

    Must... waste time... to tell strangers off for not fitting with the majority. Grrr
    That's just it Cap, I don't really care to put my whole identity around living on XIV forums especially to complain but I do enjoy how easy it is to trigger the snowflakes here.

    You can like whatever you like about the game or not, but it's hilarious ya'll complain as much as you do. I am utterly baffled by the amount of people on these forums that complain nonstop about damn near everything in game yet actively give the company their money monthly. Shit, I wouldn't respect those opinions either, can't even blame the devs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    That's just it Cap, I don't really care to put my whole identity around living on XIV forums especially to complain but I do enjoy how easy it is to trigger the snowflakes here.

    You can like whatever you like about the game or not, but it's hilarious ya'll complain as much as you do. I am utterly baffled by the amount of people on these forums that complain nonstop about damn near everything in game yet actively give the company their money monthly. Shit, I wouldn't respect those opinions either, can't even blame the devs.
    That's odd, I thought I was the one triggering you here, seeing how you keep replying. Little snowflake is so insecure that the only thing it has to do in life is trying to bait on internet forums.

    Well bait used to be better, as they say.
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