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    Ghost_of_Ebina's Avatar
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    Between Wuk Lamat I see some parallels with Ysayle. Both were idealists who believed strongly in fighting for their own people.
    What HW did very well is how Hreasvelgr totally shredded Ysayle's imagined utopian vision of how Dragons and People can live together.
    That scene where he told her how stupid she was... it was shiver-inducing; it was both terrible and wonderful to watch.

    Wuk Lamat should have had some similar type of awakening where her "childish idealism" is crushed / pulverized into smithereens... and then through some incredibly arduous transformation she can be redeemed or something (like, going off screen for a while)
    The way how her untested idealism goes unchallenged really weakened her impact as a character -- also leading to very little character development.
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost_of_Ebina View Post
    Between Wuk Lamat I see some parallels with Ysayle. Both were idealists who believed strongly in fighting for their own people.
    What HW did very well is how Hreasvelgr totally shredded Ysayle's imagined utopian vision of how Dragons and People can live together.
    That scene where he told her how stupid she was... it was shiver-inducing; it was both terrible and wonderful to watch.

    Wuk Lamat should have had some similar type of awakening where her "childish idealism" is crushed / pulverized into smithereens... and then through some incredibly arduous transformation she can be redeemed or something (like, going off screen for a while)
    The way how her untested idealism goes unchallenged really weakened her impact as a character -- also leading to very little character development.
    Wuk Lamat's probably the only idealist main character that didn't get her teeth kicked in by reality, which makes that aspect of the story stand out that much more.
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    Gaddes Ronfaure
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost_of_Ebina View Post
    Between Wuk Lamat I see some parallels with Ysayle. Both were idealists who believed strongly in fighting for their own people.
    What HW did very well is how Hreasvelgr totally shredded Ysayle's imagined utopian vision of how Dragons and People can live together.
    That scene where he told her how stupid she was... it was shiver-inducing; it was both terrible and wonderful to watch.
    The interesting thing about HW though is that Dragons and People CAN live together, but just not without fundamental changes to society to enable that; certainly the Ishgard of the past with their dark secrets and corruption couldn't accomplish it, but we're actually on that path now, post-dragonsong war. I think the important difference though is that an idealist is not a bad thing so long as they are realistic about what needs to be done to bring about that change. Aymeric is possibly my favorite idealist in the game. He had some pretty lofty ideals about radically altering Ishgardian society, but through some tumultuous ups and downs and his own experiences, he knew that in order to achieve that some pretty substantial work had to be done to get that goal started, and the effort needed to maintain that goal (hence why he's still practically chained to his desk to this day ). He was willing to roll up his sleeves and get to work with actual plans, not just simply hugging it out and eating tacos.
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