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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    I ... don't think you understand the scale of Hoyoverse game. Their revenue range from high 8digit to low 9digit dollar figure a month.

    Even if we generously give FF14 3milion subs at standard price (which I doubt), they are still way behind those games. Realistiacally, FF14 probably only peak at release of an expansion, than slighly peak again when patch come out but on average I seriously doubt it maintains 3mil subs on average at any given times. The economy behind Gacha game is literally insane, and there is a reason you see why a lot of companies want to jump on that model.

    But I do agree that FF14 would definitely be at a much better place if SE funnel its profit into better the game itself instead draining it as a source of fund for other fail projects. Whether you can see Hoyoverse does exactly just that.
    if 10% of the profit goes to development.. FFXIV will destroy the competition for other MMOs, even Yoshi P publicly stated that bro he beg SE to do adjustments on the budget..
    Why someone who develop the best MMO in the market destroys the competition in ShB begging parent company to increase the budget when the game is literally funding NFT projects that until now.. no one hear about.. not even demos not even an image.. like money just blown away.

    If we invest that money which is already spent on NFTs we can fix netcode issue forever
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gember View Post
    I understand you are honed in with the conspiracy with Square, and that's fine. However, that did not answer my question with individuals doing DDoS attacks.
    It's not a conspiracy, how else do you explain why the DDoS always happen only when Japan is awake?

    Chloe
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouMayNot View Post
    It's not a conspiracy, how else do you explain why the DDoS always happen only when Japan is awake?

    Chloe
    Oo?
    I don't see how it's related...
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouMayNot View Post
    It's not a conspiracy, how else do you explain why the DDoS always happen only when Japan is awake?

    Chloe
    You have no proof. So yes it is a theory of yours at this point.

    The time you said in your previous post lines up with near prime time in NA. So you could also argue it's targetting busy times for English players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    You have no proof. So yes it is a theory of yours at this point.

    The time you said in your previous post lines up with near prime time in NA. So you could also argue it's targetting busy times for English players.
    The main problem with her "theory" is that, for a while, the main target of the DDoS was EU DC Chaos.... The prime time in EU is around 2am to 3am in Japan... so....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    The main problem with her "theory" is that, for a while, the main target of the DDoS was EU DC Chaos.... The prime time in EU is around 2am to 3am in Japan... so....
    IDK about Europe DDoS, but the NA DDoS is always when JP goes to work 9-12, it suddenly stops when they go to lunch, it's just so obvious. The ones in EU are probably done by WoW though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    The main problem with her "theory" is that, for a while, the main target of the DDoS was EU DC Chaos.... The prime time in EU is around 2am to 3am in Japan... so....
    My b for being unclear. My argument was that prime time in NA (or anywhere really) is a time a DDoS attack would take place since it would impact more people.
    In no way am I agreeing that SE is doing it themselves.

    If you interpreted it that way great! Just wanted to clarify.
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    didn't you claim to make a chargeback because of false advertising?
    what happened with that?
    oh, wait
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    My b for being unclear. My argument was that prime time in NA (or anywhere really) is a time a DDoS attack would take place since it would impact more people.
    In no way am I agreeing that SE is doing it themselves.

    If you interpreted it that way great! Just wanted to clarify.
    It's what iunderstood don't worry, you were clear enough ^^

    Quote Originally Posted by YouMayNot View Post
    IDK about Europe DDoS, but the NA DDoS is always when JP goes to work 9-12, it suddenly stops when they go to lunch, it's just so obvious. The ones in EU are probably done by WoW though.

    Chloe
    Can i ask you?
    Do you live in a Faraday cage and are you wearing a tin hat?
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    I don´t care who is doing that. Fact is the protection for this Servers is bad period. You can tell me that this is normal its 4 months now...
    But once again nothing will change be cause enough people will defend everything in this game even 4 months DDoS issues. This game starts finally starts to look like an indie game.
    Wait no forget this Indie devs try to listen too the customers and fix their stuff.
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