Is Square Enix DDoSing themselves or what ?

[Bitmoar]

They should just sell their server hardware and use cloud for everything. I'm assuming the big providers have better DDoS protection and definitely better location/infrastructure. (Note: I don't know wtf I'm talking about)

[YouMayNot]

It's incredibly bad server hardware.
One time the servers got shut down because there were too many Market Board requests at once.
Sometimes the problem's even just caused by the weather. Actually I think all of these are either bad weather or as you've said stealth maintenances because in every other MMO i've played, the players were all able to figure out what was causing the DDOS as it was occuring.

It's so so obvious that it's stealth maintenance because they all happen when Japan wakes up at 8 or 9 JST. It never happens when Japan is asleep.

Chloe

[TaranTatsuuchi]

It's incredibly bad server hardware.
One time the servers got shut down because there were too many Market Board requests at once.
Sometimes the problem's even just caused by the weather. Actually I think all of these are either bad weather or as you've said stealth maintenances because in every other MMO i've played, the players were all able to figure out what was causing the DDOS as it was occuring.

Fishing caused server crashes at one point...

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...58558c5c79e374

-An issue wherein fishing in Outer La Noscea could cause the server to crash.
*As a temporary measure against this issue, we have made fishing temporarily unavailable at North Bronze Lake in Outer La Noscea. The issue will be addressed sometime next week. In the meantime, the same fish can also be obtained at North Bronze Lake in Upper La Noscea, so we ask that fishing be performed there instead until the issue has been fixed.

[Turnintino]

It's so so obvious that it's stealth maintenance because they all happen when Japan wakes up at 8 or 9 JST. It never happens when Japan is asleep.

Chloe

They've been pretty transparent when it was a server error on their end -- no matter how embarrassing lol (see above post). I don't have any reason to believe they're being dishonest about this, along with the understanding that MMOs tend to be easy targets, especially Japanese ones, which tend to have famously shitty defenses. I don't think they're above criticism for that -- they really need to get tf on top of this issue -- but I don't think they're lying. I think they're negligent lol.

[LibitIncarne]

Fishing caused server crashes at one point...

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...58558c5c79e374

This happened once and it's because they moved the hole without removing the previous location's hole.
That's a crash, not a DDOS.

[Gember]

I know I am probably opening a whole can of worms here asking this; but what reason could make an individual constantly attack this game with DDoS? Like what issues do they have for them to be persistent for two months? Why pay for it to happen? I know this is shooting theories into the dark, but does anyone know any history of reasons why some individuals go out of their way to do this?

[YouMayNot]

I know I am probably opening a whole can of worms here asking this; but what reason could make an individual constantly attack this game with DDoS? Like what issues do they have for them to be persistent for two months? Why pay for it to happen? I know this is shooting theories into the dark, but does anyone know any history of reasons why some individuals go out of their way to do this?

You are so close to the truth.

No one has a reason to constantly attack the game with DDoS. It costs millions of dollars and you don't get any benefit either.

Which means the only one DDoSing so long is Square Enix, because they don't need to spend money, they can just walk to their server room and unplug the cord for a while.

Chloe

[Gember]

You are so close to the truth.

No one has a reason to constantly attack the game with DDoS. It costs millions of dollars and you don't get any benefit either.

Which means the only one DDoSing so long is Square Enix, because they don't need to spend money, they can just walk to their server room and unplug the cord for a while.

Chloe

I understand you are honed in with the conspiracy with Square, and that's fine. However, that did not answer my question with individuals doing DDoS attacks.

[Shibi]

....Like what issues do they have for them to be persistent for two months? Why pay for it to happen? I know this is shooting theories into the dark, but does anyone know any history of reasons why some individuals go out of their way to do this?

Keeping it in FFXIV terms, and not in general (lots of preprints on arXiv.org on reasons)

Subs would be running out, so maybe there is some butthurt by someone there who is spanking SE's bottom. However botnets are expensive. So that wouldn't last.

There may also be an element of a player who... Hmm... how to put this diplomatically... "Saw a large reduction in their gold mining profits" through effective ban, or the player numbers declining, and they would maybe have more resources to throw at SE's network security.

There might be a stock player who is sending a sly message to the board to pay attention or lose the golden goose.

Ultimately, people are weird.

[Raven2014]

Daily reminder

-15 usd monthly (worth of GP Ultimate) + plus retainers + tip.
- New content every 5 months (unlike Hoyoverse who release new events[sometimes with new zones as well] every 2 weeks or month , handling 4 successful massive games at once)
— Every new item or emote goes directly behind $$$cash shop on a based subscription game.
—Can't unsub because you lose your house.

I ... don't think you understand the scale of Hoyoverse game. Their revenue range from high 8digit to low 9digit dollar figure a month.

Even if we generously give FF14 3milion subs at standard price (which I doubt), they are still way behind those games. Realistiacally, FF14 probably only peak at release of an expansion, than slighly peak again when patch come out but on average I seriously doubt it maintains 3mil subs on average at any given times. The economy behind Gacha game is literally insane, and there is a reason you see why a lot of companies want to jump on that model.

But I do agree that FF14 would definitely be at a much better place if SE funnel its profit into better the game itself instead draining it as a source of fund for other fail projects. Whether you can see Hoyoverse does exactly just that.