DT's Writing: What Could've Been Better

[Striker44]

Despite her weird power ups and feats (lets not talk about Dynamis, it's a dumb concept and should be dead and buried)

I find it borderline impossible for Wuk Lamat to have lived in a culturally diverse city like that and not having any idea how the cultures in Tural are. It's clear "Lets insert a "flaw" here so we can have a journey in the MSQ for her" while it makes logically no sense. These writers are horrible.

It makes sense, because while Tuliyollal itself is culturally diverse, only certain segments of each individual culture that comprises it actually moved to the capital. It's perhaps best represented with the Mamool Ja, where it was specifically the more "liberal" members of its society that went to Tuliyollal while the "conservative" side stayed in Mamook. If you only had the chance to talk to hippies from the 1960's, would that give you an accurate representation of the entirety of American culture? (Or replace hippies with any one particular group - farmers, Floridians, the West Coast, etc..) Heck, even if you surveyed just general Americans in a metropolitan area, how many would have deep knowledge of American history? I find it very logical that Wuk Lumat could end up actually knowing very little about the cultures in Tural by only interacting with those who specifically came to Tuliyollal.

- There's not once a doubt that Wuk Lamat becomes Dawnservant, making the first half feel rather predictable and boring

This is true in any FF game. Did people playing FFVI ever think the party wouldn't actually get back together and defeat Kefka after he unleashed the statues? Did people playing FFX ever think the party wouldn't eventually defeat Sin? I could go on and on there.

- no, we are not a mentor and no, Wuk Lamat does not have any notable character development because she wasn't allowed to have true flaws in the first place (the flaws that she has are not intentional)

Yes, we are a mentor, and Wuk Lumat goes from believing the empathy she has is worthless to realizing it's a key part of what makes her father a good ruler (among many other things). She is definitely intentionally flawed. You not liking it doesn't make it any less factual.

watching Gulool Ja Ja die after Zoraal Ja gets resurrected (no the honor argument doesn't count)

Aside from the logical fallacy of "just ignore anything that refutes my argument", the other key piece is us at that point not knowing anything about what Zoraal Ja's power can do. We do know that he just mincemeat out of someone who had just beaten him and who had fought both us and Estinien to a draw. Aside from the shock of the moment, we have no clue how powerful he really might be at that moment.

Her basically non-reaction to learning who her real father is doesn't get talked about enough. That could have been a huge emotional character building moment. Instead she stares blankly and is immediately ready to move on to the next problem to defeat with peace and happiness.

Which is a very real potential reaction. Some people who are adopted are very interested in learning about their birth parents and would be deeply moved. Others feel no real connection to them at all and don't really react if they ever "find out" who their birth parents are. I'm really not sure in this case how that could have "built" any of WL's character.

I didn't bother addressing the rest because they amount to no more than pure personal opinions.

[Mondschnee]

This is true in any FF game. Did people playing FFVI ever think the party wouldn't actually get back together and defeat Kefka after he unleashed the statues? Did people playing FFX ever think the party wouldn't eventually defeat Sin? I could go on and on there.

Uhhh why would I care about any other FF game in that context other than FFXIV itself?

Yes, we are a mentor, and Wuk Lumat goes from believing the empathy she has is worthless to realizing it's a key part of what makes her father a good ruler (among many other things). She is definitely intentionally flawed. You not liking it doesn't make it any less factual.

Man, It's so easy to tell that you are not interested in a genuine discussion. You'd rather spend your time talking down on other people.

Telling someone how perfect they actually are is not mentoring, no matter how you try to spin it. Apart from that, she overcame her motion sickness on her own, we had no part in that. Doesn't have to do with me not liking it. There's an inherent problem with how her insecurities are depicted. Her intentional flaws are very minor in comparison to the flaws that the story doesn't point out because they're not meant to be intentional. These would have made for a much more compelling and believable character growth though.

Aside from the logical fallacy of "just ignore anything that refutes my argument",

Wrong, I simply have heard all of these arguments way too often and they're not believable, so I don't want to argue in that direction is all.

the other key piece is us at that point not knowing anything about what Zoraal Ja's power can do. We do know that he just mincemeat out of someone who had just beaten him and who had fought both us and Estinien to a draw. Aside from the shock of the moment, we have no clue how powerful he really might be at that moment.

We've had plenty of experience with villains and the moment we saw Zoraal Ja coming back to life, we should have grabbed our weapons and intervened.
He showed up in weird armor. You don't need any more reason to be on high alert at all times. This was not a stage play where we were supposed to sit and watch, but the story treated it as such.

[honest_psycho]

Yes, we are a mentor...

I'm so sick and tired of hearing this "argument" for the hundred time.

Not only is this blatantly and demonstrably false, it has been refuted time and time again by dozens of people in dozens of threads.
The only one "who ignores arguments" is YOU.

And I'm not giving you the benefit of the doubt that you actually believe what you say.
You know exactly what and what does not constitute a "mentor" and I'm not gonna waste my time to spoonfed you examples of actual mentoring so you can ignore them.

Stop it.