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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Even stacking all your MIT available from both Healers at that moment (mind you two back to back mechanics have already exhausted some before it), you are not clearing Harrowing Hell with no GCD heals and no tank LB. Same thing can be said for M4S P2 opening currently..
    Cross-Tail Switch does almost 900k in 8 seconds, if you can find me any party that can heal through that without tank LB, I'll be impressed.

    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    So you are surprised you had trouble finding a healer at midnight on a weekday in Japan when most people probably had to work in the morning and wouldn't want to be up that late.
    Did you even read the post? I literally wrote right there that I looked for a weekly savage PF "at reset", weekly reset is 5pm in Japan, not midnight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    Cross-Tail Switch does almost 900k in 8 seconds, if you can find me any party that can heal through that without tank LB, I'll be impressed.
    ???

    Hyper-mitting this attack is a strategy employed since week 1. My static switched from tank LB to hypermit last week, gives us 2 melee lb3, skipping last mechanic. It's harder, sure, but not impossible. It does require GCD healing though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenThyl View Post
    ???

    Hyper-mitting this attack is a strategy employed since week 1. My static switched from tank LB to hypermit last week, gives us 2 melee lb3, skipping last mechanic. It's harder, sure, but not impossible. It does require GCD healing though.
    The person I was responding to was talking about PF relying on tank LB. Your static can hypermit it, sure, but would you trust PF to do it?

    I've healed Harrowing Hell in PF with no tank LB, I wouldn't trust PF to heal through Cross-Tail Switch with no tank LB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    Cross-Tail Switch does almost 900k in 8 seconds, if you can find me any party that can heal through that without tank LB, I'll be impressed.


    So people are having hard time healing thru mit/heal check but... want more healing. Hmmmmmm.
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    I would suggest to just use the free login campaigns for doing MSQ. No point in paying at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDaddy View Post
    So people are having hard time healing thru mit/heal check but... want more healing. Hmmmmmm.
    Ah yes, some healers can't heal, so let's delete healing from the game.

    Let's also delete mitigating from the game because some tanks don't press their CDs. Maybe also delete damage rotations from the game because some people can't play DPS properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    Maybe also delete damage rotations from the game because some people can't play DPS properly.
    They already been doing that. For example the PCT 123 by just bashing on button or GNB Gnashing comboes that got turned to 1 button, or PLD Goring Blade that was took out of normal rotation so they can just 123 and many more other cases in that effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    Cross-Tail Switch does almost 900k in 8 seconds, if you can find me any party that can heal through that without tank LB, I'll be impressed.
    I've seen it a couple of times in PF when transition doesn't go well and the healer uses LB3 but man you have to kitchen sink the heck out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    Cross-Tail Switch does almost 900k in 8 seconds, if you can find me any party that can heal through that without tank LB, I'll be impressed.
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    I've seen it a couple of times in PF when transition doesn't go well and the healer uses LB3 but man you have to kitchen sink the heck out of it.
    What's wild is that a quick youtube search reveals this
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    Last edited by Havenchild; 09-10-2024 at 06:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    What's wild is that a quick youtube search reveals this
    Seeing that, it's hardly a "PF is lazy and would rather rely on tank LB than heal the mechanic" thing.

    It's far more optimal for the tank to clip their GCD than both healers spending the entirety of that attack spamming heals and then not having much mitigation (or MP, in the SCH's case) left for later. This seems to be more of a "lesser damage loss" consideration than a lazy healer issue. Which is kind of expected because the general community sees losing damage as the greatest crime of humanity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    Cross-Tail Switch does almost 900k in 8 seconds, if you can find me any party that can heal through that without tank LB, I'll be impressed.



    Did you even read the post? I literally wrote right there that I looked for a weekly savage PF "at reset", weekly reset is 5pm in Japan, not midnight.
    Even so, 40 minutes is a far cry from the claim that no one is playing healers and content is unable to be completed as a result, which was supposed to be the point of this healer strike. Condescension aside I don't think there is any scenario where every PF will be filled instantly with everyone always playing their preferred role or job, so I guess the question is what would you see as a measure of successful job design?
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