Level Sync feels worse every expansion

[TheMightyMollusk]

Level sync isn't the (only) problem. There's a definite issue with power creep, too. New jobs get higher potency skills to start with, so they break old content like an eggshell.

Item level sync is also pretty terrible, especially at old level caps. Remember when Weeping City or Rabanastre or Hades had some teeth?

Unfortunately, SE would rather funnel XIV's profits into new failures like Concorde rather than actually put any more than necessary back into the main game that's actually keeping the company afloat, so.....

[Valence]

Keeping the full kit would be stupid and a total disaster in terms of discrepancies. The idea that there is already big discrepancies between player skill, gear, sprouts, etc, isn't an excuse to introduce even more lopsided systems. No matter what you do, no, having Foul/Flare in sastasha is not gonna be healthy for the first time experience of new players that go through here. Stuff already melts way too fast due to SE being extremely bad at keeping powercreep in check from affecting older content, so imagine when instead of your highest potency GCD is not 300 but 900 in there?! (and yes some later jobs like DNC/PCT are the exact example of why this is bad)

The only thing I think could actually work would be to introduce multiple tier segments allowing jobs to keep all of their abilities pertaining to said tiers. For example, a lvl1-30 tier allowing people to have all the job unlock toolkit no matter if in sastasha or in haukke, a lvl31-50 tier allowing to have the full ARR core kit of the job within the lvl31 to 50 duties, and then a tier for each expansion, for example allowing a party in Sohm Al having access to the full HW kit if they have it unlocked.

[Wolwosh]

I got the 2nd dungeon the other day as Picto and I found you literally only spam 1 button throughout the whole dungeon..
You have one attack button and a shield, which you literally have no use for because of no aoe's.
I would like to learn the job i'm leveling and I don't even mind getting a 70 because you still have enough to press, but i'm not doing Sastasha or CT as a lvl 95.
I gladly take the penalty and do some fates instead.

[ovIm]

Keeping the full kit would be stupid and a total disaster in terms of discrepancies. The idea that there is already big discrepancies between player skill, gear, sprouts, etc, isn't an excuse to introduce even more lopsided systems. No matter what you do, no, having Foul/Flare in sastasha is not gonna be healthy for the first time experience of new players that go through here. Stuff already melts way too fast due to SE being extremely bad at keeping powercreep in check from affecting older content, so imagine when instead of your highest potency GCD is not 300 but 900 in there?! (and yes some later jobs like DNC/PCT are the exact example of why this is bad)

Well, that can easily be mitigated. Just give synched players a debuff, a reverse echo if you will, that caps their maximum potency per GCD to the expected level of the current instance. Hells, give players an option if they want this type of sync or the current one.

Cause really, what do I care if Johnny Greensprout does the same DPS in Sastasha with 2 buttons as I do with 20? At least I can play my full kit and have fun with my class, and Johnny has something to look forward to.

[LilaIronman]

I fully agree, so far I have done daylie roulettes once since release of Yawntrail

[Fynlar]

One of the most incredible pieces of advice I've seen on this forum. Literally just telling this dude to not play the game. Lmfao

Uhh, no? There's many forms of content in this game and not everything is necessarily going to be someone's cup of tea.

If I went and complained about how terrible Savages and Ultimates are because they're out of my skill range, do you think people would be sympathetic to my plight, or would they just tell me to not bother doing them and to stick to more manageable content?

Many, many people get by in this game without ever touching roulettes. If you can't manage that, that is your own failing.

Except hunt trains are more difficult to get into compared to dropping into a roulette, considering you have to get into a LS first, and you have to wait for one to happen to join up. Not exactly a good replacement for a duty finder dungeon if you ask me, even if tomes/hour ratio is better during a hunt train.

I partake in hunt trains just fine without any LS dedicated to them. Online hunt resources exist; make use of them. Or even just periodically take a look at the PF every now and then. That's the sort of thing it's there for.

[ovIm]

I partake in hunt trains just fine without any LS dedicated to them. Online hunt resources exist; make use of them. Or even just periodically take a look at the PF every now and then. That's the sort of thing it's there for.

External sources do not count, we are talking purely ingame methods here. But I'll humor it, just for the sake of it.

Hopping to find a PF party or having to visit an external website, and of course, waiting for a hunt train to actually be available is still a much higher entry requirement than opening your Duty Finder window and clicking "sign me up fam".

Also, hunt trains do not allow you to simply drop in when you have the time, since it depends on Mob Spawn timers on the server and can not be done during any free time window a player may has. So no, Hunt Trains are not an adequate replacement for easy drop in gameplay, even if their tomes/hours ratio is better.

[Fynlar]

External sources do not count, we are talking purely ingame methods here

Then your take doesn't matter. This is an online game, thus everyone potentially has access to online resources. If you are choosing not to use them, then you are just willingly handicapping yourself.

Also, hunt trains do not allow you to simply drop in when you have the time, since it depends on Mob Spawn timers on the server and can not be done during any free time window a player may has. So no, Hunt Trains are not an adequate replacement for easy drop in gameplay, even if their tomes/hours ratio is better.

Hunt trains are frequent enough that there is almost always at least one going on somewhere. You would need to look on more than just your own server though. Or is that also something too difficult for you and therefore it "doesn't count" or whatever?

[ovIm]

Then your take doesn't matter. This is an online game, thus everyone potentially has access to online resources. If you are choosing not to use them, then you are just willingly handicapping yourself.

Of course it matters, I have given you ample reason why it does and you have done nothing to dispute my arguments except for saying "no". But again, for the sake of the argument:
the player would have to know these resources exist (i for one did not know they do until now), and still, its a higher hurdle to get into than to open duty finder and saying "yeah I want to play this now".

Hunt trains are frequent enough that there is almost always at least one going on somewhere. You would need to look on more than just your own server though. Or is that also something too difficult for you and therefore it "doesn't count" or whatever?

Hurt, much?
Most Hunt Trains I know of run over the entire DC, server hopping through everywhere. So yes, I do look DC wide. With this method though, Hunt Trains still only happen so often during the day, and may happen on times where I can not play because of other commitments like work.
People like being able to just drop into content when they feel like it, and Hunt Trains are not that kind of content, that you have to admit.

[WeakestZenosEnjoyer]

"just do hunt trains"

literally the most braindead content in the game, where everyone plays tanks with their 40% passive damage resistance or a healer and spams Medica 3 to pump aggro unless they have neither actually leveled.

I'd rather run Praetorium again in spite of getting locked to level 50 and not even having my AoE sword combo. It's also not good game design if people are not supposed to engage with one of the core features because engaging with it isn't worth it.