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  1. #21
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by shoba View Post
    No it's not just active PF. This allow allows NA and EU to play together especially if they have friends or form statics. You have room to play with more players especially if you play while NA is not on peak times. Some people not willing to go to Oceania because of ping issues too.

    I still don't understand how aether being the sole active raiding dc affects opening up EU and NA travel either; this is not going to magically kill EU or vice versa. it really just accommodates players who wanna play with others in in EU or NA or vice versa. Doubt this affects the majority.
    All you offer is baseless speculation while in reality every DC that has gained access to Aether has ended up losing raiders and having a less active PF. You have not demonstrated why the same thing would not happen to EU PFs.
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  2. #22
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    Sho Ba
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    I would like this as well.

    There does need to be a solution for "going to raid on a certain DC" but that's an in-region problem. The solution for that is to block off the public High-End category in Party Finder when traveling in-region. Not necessary when traveling to other regions, though.
    I highly agree. This really shouldn't be affecting in-regions at all.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    All you offer is baseless speculation while in reality every DC that has gained access to Aether has ended up losing raiders and having a less active PF. You have not demonstrated why the same thing would not happen to EU PFs.
    I really doubt EU is suddenly gonna lose raiders because they can go to aether. EU and NA respectively have solid raiding scenes and one region isn't going to die because the other one is open. It would not happen to EU because of ping too, EU will willingly play with bad ping if they have to play with their NA friends, otherwise EU will be fine.

    EU also has this problem between Chaos and Light. This is not NA exclusive.
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  4. #24
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    Phoebe Iris
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    I wish there were a way to join Free Companies from other servers because the current travel system has practically destroyed non-RP-focused FCs. Members are constantly off on other servers, and the sense of community we used to have feels lost. Our FC house is barely used anymore; almost all interactions happen on Discord instead, and it's a ghost town. Being able to join FCs across servers could bring life back into these communities, bringing people together regardless of where they spend their time.
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    99.99% chance probably a Titanman alt

  5. #25
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    Amanda Hallowheart
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    People thinking a dude from JP or from light is going to go to aether to raid lmao

    I always say SE is holding the game back, but its yall just holding the game back because you dont want the game to evolve in the right direction.
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  6. #26
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    Quote Originally Posted by PassinLay View Post
    People thinking a dude from JP or from light is going to go to aether to raid lmao
    Jepp, they really think it. Because they cannot handle it, that there is a difference between physical and logical datacenters. And they believe, that problems, caused by Aether on NA datacenters will affect them too. I try to imagine, how fun it will be to play on Aether from the EU. Way more disconnects, a 120 ms higher latency, staying awake up to 2:00 am because of the time shift ...

    xD



    Cheers
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by PassinLay View Post
    People thinking a dude from JP or from light is going to go to aether to raid lmao

    I always say SE is holding the game back, but its yall just holding the game back because you dont want the game to evolve in the right direction.
    Big agree. It makes no sense to assume EU or JP is suddenly going to die because they can go to aether. Aether being the sole raid server is an NA problem and not EU/JP problem. Both regions have their respective scenes and communities that are thriving. Cross region is going to give more opprotunities for players to play with others. Saying "just go to Oceania" makes no sense because NA or EU statics won't suddenly go to Oceania just to play with one person. Especially when specific players may not be used to high ping. This is mostly going to be a benefit for high ping raiders and playing with friends, and also visit other communities in different regions.
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  8. #28
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    Will Irishclover
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    Quote Originally Posted by PassinLay View Post
    People thinking a dude from JP or from light is going to go to aether to raid lmao

    I always say SE is holding the game back, but its yall just holding the game back because you dont want the game to evolve in the right direction.
    This , the average person isn't going to cross region to do savage lol, like yes there are EU players and (NA players) who do have characters on EU and NA who do savage and extremes and stuff, but thats far from the majority, static raiding timezones would make this very hard to do lol

    Its a non issue and people fearmongering about this are comparing apples to oranges in regards to the Aether situation
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    Last edited by WillIrishclover; 09-06-2024 at 12:03 AM.

  9. #29
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    Phoebe Iris
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    There’s some clear flip-flopping happening in this thread. On the one hand, people are saying they want cross-region travel so they can raid and play with friends from other regions. But in the next breath, it's being argued that the average player won’t use the feature to raid, making the entire thing pointless. So which is it? Are we pushing for cross-region play because we genuinely want to connect with people from other regions, or are we assuming most players won’t even bother? There's a contradiction here.
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    99.99% chance probably a Titanman alt

  10. #30
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    Will Irishclover
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonoki View Post
    There’s some clear flip-flopping happening in this thread. On the one hand, people are saying they want cross-region travel so they can raid and play with friends from other regions. But in the next breath, it's being argued that the average player won’t use the feature to raid—which would make the entire thing pointless. So which is it? Are we pushing for cross-region play because we genuinely want to connect with people from other regions, or are we assuming most players won’t even bother? There's a contradiction here.

    People can do both, all im saying is

    1 you're not going to see a massive drain of PF from EU, what you're going to see is people going over to socialise with friends, (edit- which will include doing casual content as well, but this already happens with cross data centre travel as well)

    2 you aren't going to see a culture clash , because EU and NA culture is honestly not that different as someone who plays on both.

    3- the people that do cross region savage at launch will be a minority (like it currently is)

    overall nothing negative will happen to EU or NA here, and using the Aether situation is pointless as its a completely different kind of problem.
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