Greenlight NA and EU Travel

[ShadowNyx3]

Let's make the 7.05 congestion changes even more miserable to deal with. Fantastic idea. /s


How can we greenlight cross-region travel when we've gone completely backwards in accommodating people visiting other servers and data centers in their own regions?

The first thing that needs to be taken care of before we even entertain the thought of cramming more people into other spaces is making Duty and Party Finders functional across Regional Data Centers, meaning that for NA: Aether, Primal, Crystal, and Dynamis share one PF and DF. This removes the primary concern for most people piling onto certain data centers, which would help balance the populations and free up the space to allow for Regional travel to be entertained.

[WillIrishclover]

Lets just rip a bandaid off here, plenty of EU players play on NA and plenty of NA players play on EU, theres a myth that theres as big of a cultural divide between the two like there exists with the Japanese DCs when thats simply not true.

For god sake in the world races i know plenty of EU statics with NA players in them and the same goes for NA statics with EU players in them, the game is perfectly adjustable up to around 150-160ping for most jobs

Balmung in NA is full of EU RPers, outside of the PF difference, the culture is not that different.

I'm all for it , for the sheer fact that there exists little cultural difference outside of PF strats.

And no harm to EU players, but a good deal of UK and Irish players that i know of mainly play on NA anyway.

[Larirawiel]

after seeing how people on many servers kinda are forced to travel to another datacenter to run content since the datacenter travel got introduced i have to say i'm against it.

It seems, that you are confusing logical datacenters with physical datacenters. There are absolutely no reasons to do content on a different physical datacenter if one of the logical datacenters is healthy.




Cheers

[Bonoki]

The community mistakenly believes Square Enix would implement cross-region travel between NA and EU while leaving JP out. In reality, SE is far more likely to aim for an 'all or nothing' approach. Cross-region play between all three regions—NA, EU, and JP—makes the most sense from a technical and community standpoint. Why would they exclude JP when the goal is to unite the player base across all regions? A partial implementation would contradict their efforts to promote a truly global community and likely lead to a backlash. SE is likely waiting for JP to greenlight the decision.

[shoba]

1000000000000000000000000000x this.

Until PF has a basic function such as.
"Exclude players from foreign Regions" Or able to include other DCs in your region "like AETHER-DYNAMIS-CRYSTAL-PRIMAL" then the idea of opening the floodgates is generally probably a bad idea. As it stands PF's happen 99% of the time on Aether in NA...which you usually cannot get to by the afternoon everyday and I can imagine what the locals login queues get to be like by the afternoon.

PF's need more refined tools.

Floodgates were open though during the opening of Oceania servers for everyone. I don't remember anything big and terrible happening and thought everyone had a good time. But again, I really don't think PF issues or being unable to do content on certain DCs have anything to do with this because this will be mainly targeted towards players who reside outside of NA but play in NA servers. Pretty sure those don't make up the majority of NA players for it to affect DC's DF/PF.

[shoba]

Let's make the 7.05 congestion changes even more miserable to deal with. Fantastic idea. /s


How can we greenlight cross-region travel when we've gone completely backwards in accommodating people visiting other servers and data centers in their own regions?

The first thing that needs to be taken care of before we even entertain the thought of cramming more people into other spaces is making Duty and Party Finders functional across Regional Data Centers, meaning that for NA: Aether, Primal, Crystal, and Dynamis share one PF and DF. This removes the primary concern for most people piling onto certain data centers, which would help balance the populations and free up the space to allow for Regional travel to be entertained.

I doubt something like this can be a great cause for congestion, cause honestly things like these are not in the majority; majority of NA and EU players aren't suddenly gonna go to different regions to play.

We can greenlight this because they said the technology is ready, everything is in place and it just needs to be turned on. So there isn't anything extra to do aside from turning it on tbh. Again, I really don't think traveling within same region and cross region travel are the same problem, because the latter accommodates for players non-Americans who play in NA because of their friends, which makes it harder for them to sometimes pf peak NA because it'll be really late for them. People aren't flooding Oceania right now because there's no reason to unless you're playing with Oceania players.

I agree that issues within DC travel itself should be fixed. However, the tech is already finished for cross-region travel, and all they need to do is get our approval to do so.

[shoba]

The community mistakenly believes Square Enix would implement cross-region travel between NA and EU while leaving JP out. In reality, SE is far more likely to aim for an 'all or nothing' approach. Cross-region play between all three regions—NA, EU, and JP—makes the most sense from a technical and community standpoint. Why would they exclude JP when the goal is to unite the player base across all regions? A partial implementation would contradict their efforts to promote a truly global community and likely lead to a backlash. SE is likely waiting for JP to greenlight the decision.

It's harder to consider JP because their culture is vastly different from NA and EU. NA and EU have similar gaming cultures and can co-exist.

It was already said in gamescon that Yoshi-P is also waiting for NA and EU specifically because that can work. While for JP, I think that its own separate thing.

If SE were to wait for an all or nothing, then to be honest they wouldn't keep Oceania open for everyone to visit.

[Reinha]

This will be a good thing for the community and will allow people friends who play on separate regions to play together. Sure, you can do that in Oceania, but PF isn't as active as it is in NA or EU either

So an active PF is the motivation for this? As if Aether being the most active raiding DC isn't already causing problems for other data centers? That exact same mentality would cannibalize the PF in EU and I don't want that. Play with friends on Oceanian servers.

[shoba]

So an active PF is the motivation for this? As if Aether being the most active raiding DC isn't already causing problems for other data centers? That exact same mentality would cannibalize the PF in EU and I don't want that. Play with friends on Oceanian servers.

No it's not just active PF. This allow allows NA and EU to play together especially if they have friends or form statics. You have room to play with more players especially if you play while NA is not on peak times. Some people not willing to go to Oceania because of ping issues too.

I still don't understand how aether being the sole active raiding dc affects opening up EU and NA travel either; this is not going to magically kill EU or vice versa. it really just accommodates players who wanna play with others in in EU or NA or vice versa. Doubt this affects the majority.

[Jeeqbit]

I would like this as well.

There does need to be a solution for "going to raid on a certain DC" but that's an in-region problem. The solution for that is to block off the public High-End category in Party Finder when traveling in-region. Not necessary when traveling to other regions, though.