P4S cleared without healers

[AnotherPerson]

This party has three paladins and a warrior. Start complaining once it's two tanks and six DPS.

Also, your link is broken. It starts with http://https://

"This party has 4 tanks". So 2 of the healers can just be replaced with tanks, except with more HP and better niche utility. And Higher DPS, considering none of their GCDs were spent on Clemency DURING UPTIME and tanks have higher dps than healers at the moment. Gotcha.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

so tank replacing healer is fine and it only becomes a problem when dps are replacing healers ?
Then everything is fine, lets keep buffing tank healing and mitigation to get there !

Btw I fully expect the next ultimate to be cleared without healer on content. Unless they manage to make a "mandatory" heal LB3 that works unlike the TOP one.

IIRC TOP was cleared healerless in the same patch they were released.

[Wyti]

IIRC TOP was cleared healerless in the same patch they were released.

Pretty sure it was indeed

[Supersnow845]

Tanks replacing healers still plays far worse than actually having a healer.

The tanks literally lost zero damage in this fight, they didn’t cast a single clemency in uptime

[Naychan]

If you're unhappy with the way this expansion is going then go vote for it at Metacritic, maybe SQE will notice if that starts dropping.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/fina...xiv-dawntrail/

[Sparkthor]

I don't ever think Metacritic votes are taken in account for game approuval, but the number of subscription by given times, which a way better proof of the extension success of failure.

About this, there is something indeed, but everytime I saw a healerless clear it's the same DPS : Reaper, Monk, Dancer and Summoner, the DPS with the strongest healing abilities and for sure, many Warrior And Paladin as needed for keeping the party alive and cheesing a maximum of things.

If healer perception was not as bad as it is now, theses kinds of success would've been take with much less salt and more like "What crazy players we have". Don't get me wrong, i really think healer need a overall rework allong tanks in order to better balance mitig vs heal requirement, because right now, the balance is much in favor of Mitig and heal requirement is not that big when mitig is perfectly executed.

But as annoying this is for the state of the game, it's much less worrying as something we got in the past :
- HW full locked team compositions
- SB semi locked compositions
- SB meta were tank in offense stance reach every players in every aspect of the game.
It's also something very hard to solve without breaking the entire game.


PS : I'm pretty sure many EW savage and even ShB savage coulf have clear without healer if more people were trying to do so, and probably as quick as M4S were clear today.

[Likethewind]

@7:01 - 7:12 - 8 clemency cast during boss jump/phase change
@12:38 - pld 3 clemency on dnc after death

9 total clemency casts. 1 during uptime

Interesting

[Tunda]

sorry but I don't see this video as a bad video..

it is cool to mix 2 roles like paladin (tank+healer)

it is just another way to broke the game ever further

[Mortex]

@7:01 - 7:12 - 8 clemency cast during boss jump/phase change
@12:38 - pld 3 clemency on dnc after death

9 total clemency casts. 1 during uptime

Interesting

It’s only 1 Clemency cast in uptime and that’s nothing. If they had bis gear the fight would be dead way faster and without this need. It’s kinda wild that the tier is possible with no healer week 2

[Ramiee]

sorry but I don't see this video as a bad video..

it is cool to mix 2 roles like paladin (tank+healer)

it is just another way to broke the game ever further

It's a bad thing in a trinity based mmo because it shows that the trinity is broken. If this happened in WoW it would of been patched in a day, it shows gross negligence on behalf of CBU3.