M4S has officially been beaten without healers in week 2

[Supersnow845]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again

You can’t 0.1% your way out of the fact that nobody but tanks can survive tankbusters and you need DPS to clear on patch DPS checks

There is no 0.1’ing yourself out of that

[Alchemii]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again

You can’t 0.1% your way out of the fact that nobody but tanks can survive tankbusters and you need DPS to clear on patch DPS checks

There is no 0.1’ing yourself out of that

However, multiple groups have proven you only need 1 tank. I am awaiting the run where it is 1 tank 7 dps.

[Aravell]

I wish I could go back in time and clear ARR, HW, and SB content without healers just to spite you people. Literally a non-issue.

Yes, I would love to have seen you try to clear O12S on content with no healer.

A fight where the top players couldn't clear with 0 GCD heals with 2 healers in the party.

[Sivante]

Yes, I would love to have seen you try to clear O12S on content with no healer.

A fight where the top players couldn't clear with 0 GCD heals with 2 healers in the party.

Don't challenge them. You'll say some #)%*# like that, and they'll patch some nonsense in to make it possible.

[Wilford111]

Yes, I would love to have seen you try to clear O12S on content with no healer.

A fight where the top players couldn't clear with 0 GCD heals with 2 healers in the party.

You can't clear all fights without healers. Couldn't back then, can't now.

[Zeastria]

Available Party Healing/Mitigates from the roles:
(I didn't watch the video..but i checked up the roles they had, and what they could bring)


PLD:
- Cover
- Divine Veil
- Clemency
- Intervention
- Passage of Arms

WAR:
- Shake It Off
(A lot of self-heals)

DNC:
- Shield Samba
- Curing Waltz
- Improvised (Improvised Finish)

SMN:
- Lux Solaris
- Rekindle
- Everlasting Flight


MNK:
-Earth's Reply

[sharknado]

You already have this with tank. For example in M3S..
So why can't you have some mech that will put the onus on the healer?

The change would be global and not only for savage or ultimate. The game has to answer if it wants to go the WoW route or not. FFXIV avoids putting responsibilities and requirements on players and is anti-parsing and anti-judging of players' performance.

They could copy some healing checks from ultimate into savage and call it a day too, but it won't solve any problems, just put log checks to any invite in PF and the need to use the convoluted ATC logging for everything so you have logs to prove someone's healing capabilities etc.

[Supersnow845]

The change would be global and not only for savage or ultimate. The game has to answer if it wants to go the WoW route or not. FFXIV avoids putting responsibilities and requirements on players and is anti-parsing and anti-judging of players' performance.

They could copy some healing checks from ultimate into savage and call it a day too, but it won't solve any problems, just put log checks to any invite in PF and the need to use the convoluted ATC logging for everything so you have logs to prove someone's healing capabilities etc.

Why has this not happened for tanks then

If what you say with healers actually happened right now people would be kicking tanks left right and centre from M3 because the tank doing the buster wrong kills half the party

[Reimmi]

It unfortunately HAS to be this way, healers are literally that bad at the game.

Only because the game never freaking challenges them.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with wiping in content, let it happen so people can learn

[dwodmots]

-elite players

-not optimal comp

-PF too stupid to do this

-can you do it

Upvotes to the left thanks

(/s just for safety)

I don't get it, the updoots are on the right...