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    Quote Originally Posted by sylphlands View Post
    This has been a huuuuge issue of mine as well and I can't believe it got past sensitivity consultants. When I got to the reeds part I knew I was in for a rough ride. Why on earth would the Hanu forget their own culture, and why would Wuk Lamat know how to solve it in 10 minutes? I also found the entire Mamook section so hilariously out of touch - the writers earnestly selling the idea that these people would need to be told by outsiders, "Have you tried planting seeds about it instead of doing a eugenics project that kills 99% of your offspring?"
    It's extremely realistic for people to forget why their culture does certain things and holds certain traditions. It happens constantly, in fact, people are always trying to break down cultural traditions they don't like without putting any thought into why those traditions exist in the first place. So that part made total sense to me. It's why the idea of Chesterton's Fence exists--if you encounter a fence somewhere that seems nonsensical, don't just tear it down, find out why it was put up in the first place. There could be an extremely good reason for it to be there. However, with the Hanuhanu, their Chesterton's Fence literally shot magic plant-growing lasers. I'd think someone would have noted when the light show stopped growing their plants.

    The bit with Mamook moved way too fast for my tastes, though I could understand a highly insular society which thinks its soil is cursed wouldn't think to send anyone out to find crops that could grow in Macalania Woods. That's a bigger shift in thinking and undertaking than it looks to us in a world that is extremely connected with the Internet at our fingertips. Sometimes it really does take an outsider with a wildly different experience of the world to look at a problem sideways to solve it.

    So...they were decent ideas, but I'm not sure they were executed with any particular finesse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    It's not a vibe, it's literally it under no uncertain term. She installed a new king after killing the previous king and queen, and tell people the child king is under her "protection".

    That's straight up the protectorate playbook. France did this to a lot of countries in the 15th-18th century, and mine was one of them.
    I am glad the story hinted that the Alexandrians didn't all seem cool with that. Because holy cow, way to just take over an entire country without finding out how the people would feel about it first. Gulool Ja is the rightful king, but girl, you need to tread lightly being all "and now I'm his guardian "
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astronis View Post
    I am glad the story hinted that the Alexandrians didn't all seem cool with that. Because holy cow, way to just take over an entire country without finding out how the people would feel about it first. Gulool Ja is the rightful king, but girl, you need to tread lightly being all "and now I'm his guardian "
    We did outright murder there previous monarch and then force the child of one of them as the king of a society that really doesn't seem to need a monarch anymore. It just seems a really messed up in a game that seem to fetishies tradition to a rediculous level to then have us when we encounter a culture we find unacceptable to be to force a puppet on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    We did outright murder there previous monarch and then force the child of one of them as the king of a society that really doesn't seem to need a monarch anymore. It just seems a really messed up in a game that seem to fetishies tradition to a rediculous level to then have us when we encounter a culture we find unacceptable to be to force a puppet on them.
    I suspect/hope Wuk Lamat is going to get kicked in the teeth over it in the patch content. She's naïve enough coming into co-ruling her own country, and then just decided to add an entire second one to her plate because "family!". Like...yes, Gulool Ja is her nephew, he's the rightful king, he's way too young for it, and Alexandria can't exactly go from monarchy to nothing in five minutes, so it tracks as far as necessity goes, but Wuk Lamat isn't even remotely canny enough to navigate that political situation. I hope they do something interesting with it, in any case. They dangled a ton of plot hooks all over the place to pick up on, and that's one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astronis View Post
    I suspect/hope Wuk Lamat is going to get kicked in the teeth over it in the patch content. She's naïve enough coming into co-ruling her own country, and then just decided to add an entire second one to her plate because "family!". Like...yes, Gulool Ja is her nephew, he's the rightful king, he's way too young for it, and Alexandria can't exactly go from monarchy to nothing in five minutes, so it tracks as far as necessity goes, but Wuk Lamat isn't even remotely canny enough to navigate that political situation. I hope they do something interesting with it, in any case. They dangled a ton of plot hooks all over the place to pick up on, and that's one of them.
    The problem with Gulool Ja is that he doesn't really seem to fill an actual purpose for Alexandria, like Zoraal didn't seem to have any role outside of violence and he can't replace Sphene so he seems odd as a king as there's not need for Alexandria to have a monarchy at this ponit it has a funcational civil service that does all the day to day work anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    The problem with Gulool Ja is that he doesn't really seem to fill an actual purpose for Alexandria, like Zoraal didn't seem to have any role outside of violence and he can't replace Sphene so he seems odd as a king as there's not need for Alexandria to have a monarchy at this ponit it has a funcational civil service that does all the day to day work anyway
    Yeah, it's not terribly clear what Gulool Ja has control of outside the military (that we tore to bits), but at a guess, it would be something like root access to the Alexandrian computer system that no one else in Alexandria holds. It's definitely something that someone qualified needs access to--no matter how well-functioning things seem to be at the moment, someone needs the power to make important decisions or authorize repairs, and it looks like right now, that's Gulool Ja.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astronis View Post
    I suspect/hope Wuk Lamat is going to get kicked in the teeth over it in the patch content. She's naïve enough coming into co-ruling her own country, and then just decided to add an entire second one to her plate because "family!". Like...yes, Gulool Ja is her nephew, he's the rightful king, he's way too young for it, and Alexandria can't exactly go from monarchy to nothing in five minutes, so it tracks as far as necessity goes, but Wuk Lamat isn't even remotely canny enough to navigate that political situation. I hope they do something interesting with it, in any case. They dangled a ton of plot hooks all over the place to pick up on, and that's one of them.
    Highly doubt it if it's still the same writing team that did the MSQ.

    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    If SE even allows him to maintain his role as lead writer from here on out, after the reception this expac's story has gotten from all regions, it will just prove how inept the ppl making those decisions are and would explain a lot of SE's recent failings.
    This is SE we're talking here. they do bad decisions most of the time. From having console exclusive releases and investing into shitty NFTs.
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