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  1. #21
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    Terhix's Avatar
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    Thane Ryder
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    You have that, its called Abyssal Drain (but its trash), because you need to use it for DPS instead of keeping it for healing.
    Which is why Abyssal Drain needs a buff and having its cooldown decoupled, and Bloodwhetting needs a nerf, TBN is fine.
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  2. #22
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    Oizen's Avatar
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    playing other games like yoshida intended
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    Character
    Alondite Ragnell
    World
    Marilith
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    TBN grants the stack upon taking any damage and not if it breaks.

    Revolutionary fix
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  3. #23
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    Colt47's Avatar
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    Character
    Kan Himaa
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    TBN grants the stack upon taking any damage and not if it breaks.

    Revolutionary fix
    The fix isn't quite that simple since that would amount to spamming TBN just for the damage while also keeping a shield up. There's no real cooldown on TBN since they hooked it into MP management which shouldn't be a thing at this point.

    The best fix is just making TBN a cooldown that doesn't have an MP cost. We're so far past MP as a flexible resource in this design space for tanks given paladin basically just has a 10 use healing skill pool that recharges every combo. This does turn MP into unloading as much as possible with the dps OGCDs and It's probably okay if they got three uses of Edge of Shadow / Flood of Shadow to keep the buff up they manage, but it would probably be changed to charges and then nothing uses MP. (Which is what they should do as Carve and Split could be swapped to healing the tank instead of restoring MP).
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  4. #24
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    TouchandFeel's Avatar
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    Vespereaux Vaillantes
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 91
    I think the players would have to come to more of a consensus on what would actually be "good" before the job could be that.
    In all the years that Dark Knight has existed in this game, I have never seen it come close to that kind of agreement being reached.
    The only agreement that I have seen is that people want stuff changed to something else, but then again that's not really surprising since people generally tend to want something different or more than what they have.
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  5. #25
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    Ayan Calvesse
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    Yep youre right, remove TBN and put a shield on Oblation and give it at level 70. Tanks clearly can't have anything unique anymore or any rewards for good mitigation, just do your 1-2-3 combo and spender forever.
    *chants* One of us!

    Also...for those talking about Homogenization...Pssst. Delrium=Requistcat...
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  6. #26
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    Colt47's Avatar
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    Kan Himaa
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    I think the players would have to come to more of a consensus on what would actually be "good" before the job could be that.
    In all the years that Dark Knight has existed in this game, I have never seen it come close to that kind of agreement being reached.
    The only agreement that I have seen is that people want stuff changed to something else, but then again that's not really surprising since people generally tend to want something different or more than what they have.
    It's not about consensus and never was. The developers have to decide what the job is supposed to be. Who knows why they cling so much to the MP end of it with the job but the changes they have been making are kind of at a snails pace like they are nervous to go the full mile on it.
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