It's time to put XIV to rest....

[koko-on-da-forumz]

FFXIV doesn't deserve 12$ a month it's contant is lacking engagement and systems are redundant with as little innovation.

Why as a player have to pay for such a story?

The fact that we have to pay a monthly fee and an expansion fee just to watch a new movie every few years, while all core systems remain unchanged is unhinged. I don't know how people defend XIV's monetization model. AND there's a cash shop! And a SUBSCRIPTION to more storage--we literally already have a worse version of GW2's bag slot.

[Striker44]

The fact that we have to pay a monthly fee and an expansion fee just to watch a new movie every few years, while all core systems remain unchanged is unhinged. I don't know how people defend XIV's monetization model. AND there's a cash shop! And a SUBSCRIPTION to more storage--we literally already have a worse version of GW2's bag slot.

All of that actually makes perfect sense to me. The monthly fee is what keeps the servers running, community managers to sort out complaints, etc.. Paying for the expansion itself pays for all of the people you see in the credits who actually made the new content for the expansion (and not just the .0 MSQ, but the new raid series, patch content, etc.). Separating the two payments also attracts the audience who aren't really interested in a long-term commitment, but are willing to buy the expansion and pay a single 1-month sub to play through what they're treating as a stand-alone game. If you do all the .0 content (including watching all the cutscenes, doing all the side quests, etc....basically everything available at launch), it usually runs an easy 50-60 hours of playtime. Dropping ~$55 for the expansion + one-month sub feels fair to me for a stand-alone game of that length.

Also the cash shop in FFXIV is cosmetic. I couldn't care less what gets thrown into a cosmetic cash shop. The extra cost for the retainer is the only thing I object to.

I don't mind subscription if at least 60% of the money is going to the game

But the current state isn't even close to 10%

It's true a fair amount of FFXIV income gets diverted to other games, but ridiculous hyperbole just kills credibility and makes one come off sounding immature.

Maybe because the Negativity Bias of the Forum....and the repeating threads about more or less the same topics.
Im not sure.

This. Echo chambers can have a real psychological effect on people. Someone will see a thread on here saying Living Memory was horrible and getting 50 or so upvotes and think "see, this is what everyone says" while ignoring the YT video where people saying Living Memory was a positive experience and meaningful to them will get close to a 1000 upvotes. But if you limit your experience only to places where everyone agrees with you, you risk completely missing the real picture.

I can't take brand new accounts serious for statign this, unless they somehow got removed by doign malicious content themself on some other account or the likes.

Sorry no credits for a person from 2024, that has barely touched the game at all.

Just a heads up that the "Join Date" on the forums is not necessarily when the person started playing, but when they actually made an official forum account. For example, my Join Date shows as sometime in 2022 I believe, but I've been playing on this account since 2015.