It's time to put XIV to rest....

[1313]

Developing a new Final Fantasy MMO could be the answer. The existing game engine has maxed out its capabilities, failing to implement the desired fixes, which leads to player dissatisfaction due to unfulfilled expectations. A fresh game might resolve these issues and potentially cater to the overlooked demographics instead of the current primary audience. Acknowledging the massive effort required to develop a new game, as a consumer willing to invest, I am concerned about getting value for my money. Like many, I am ready to spend, but only if the product is genuinely worthwhile. The current game won't sustain another decade; it has been pushing its limits for years. The developers have skillfully repackaged the same mechanics in various guises, making old mechanics seem novel. However, they are not new, and the facade is apparent.

What are your thoughts? Would a new FF MMO that delivers what we've been requesting be a wise move? I would certainly be excited to experience a new, updated FF MMO.

[Tunda]

What is holding the game is subscription based model

SE is taking that money to start NFT project that no one will buy or care

The success of FFXIV was a miracle
I don't think Square Enix can do any intresting game anymore it is not 2010

To me I am waiting for respectable companies like Capcome and Riot games to do something to the genre

[FudoMyoo]

FF11 after 22 years, there are still players playing. Even though they stop the updating since 2022.

Final fantasy is a culture (to some) & flows in our blood. It will never have a fullstop or cease to exist.

Even you stop playing, you might one day find your offspring playing it in the next generation.

[Kaurhz]

Requesting a new MMO is not the wise choice, IMO.

The fact FFXIV has actually survived and thrived for so long is frankly nothing short of a series of miracles. That's not to say they cannot make one, but the chances that it is actually good, and the risk to reward isn't really there for developing a new FF MMO, IMO.

[Selvokaz]

...what?

You lost me after the first sentence or two, mostly because that doesn't sound like it has anything to do with the "game engine" they could change the core interface tomorrow and still be on the same game engine, they could rework every job in the game into entirely new versions of them that meet every fan demand, but that would still be on the game engine they're using. The game engine's only real function is to allow for ease of use to newer / next-generation developers who use game development tools they are more familiar with, safe to say the staff at SE isn't using Q Basic to make ff14 since the majority of people working there probably weren't even alive when that software was widely used, game engines for the most part are the suite tools devs use for mostly "Graphical Development" of a games design, It's why Unreal Engine is popular for creating good looking games though many devs will take it as the backbone of their design and augment it with additional tools to design say an open world RPG because the "Game Engine" itself may not have the tools necessary to make a fully realized OW RPG or MMO.

So unless you don't like the graphics of 14, which I can understand there are definitely prettier games out there, I don't think its the game engine you're at fault with.

[FuwafuwaMii]

Maybe it's you, the OP, who needs a break, rather than shutting down the game with millions of users.

[Rehayem]

Me and my friend were talking how they're making a lot of the stuff very much solo-friendly, wouldn't be surprised if in 8.0 they gave all DPS some strong self sustain of sorts.

[Tunda]

Maybe it's you, the OP, who needs a break, rather than shutting down the game with millions of users.

Fixing issue is the solution

Shutting down is like telling Square enix to roll the coffin ⚰️

[Lorika]

MMO aren't the golden eggs that it was 15 years ago.

I mean, look at the top 5 most played MMO :
1) WoW : 20 years old
2) FFXIV : 12 years old (counting 1.0)
3) BDO : 9 years old (KR release)
4) GW2 : 11 years old
5) ESO : 10 years old

MMO is almost a dead genre.
It's not worth develloping a new one (a lot of promising ones stopped their dev because nobody wanted to fund them anymore)

[Selvokaz]

MMO aren't the golden eggs that it was 15 years ago.

I mean, look at the top 5 most played MMO :
1) WoW : 20 years old
2) FFXIV : 12 years old (counting 1.0)
3) BDO : 9 years old (KR release)
4) GW2 : 11 years old
5) ESO : 10 years old

MMO is almost a dead genre.
It's not worth develloping a new one (a lot of promising ones stopped their dev because nobody wanted to fund them anymore)

its true the next generation of gamers aren't exactly interested in those types of gaming, even from the player point of view,

1.) Time investment, many of us players have well over 1000 hours in this game. Someone said if you did just the core MSQ in ARR that's over 40 hours of game and that's skipping cutscenes. So yeah ask a Valorant or some other COD-like game player if they want to talk to an npc and return to the waking sands for 40 hours and I'm sure they'd tell you to back off. Kids these days want their games to reward them within the first 20 minutes of gameplay, no time for 12-year-long game development with trickle-down storytelling, and so on. Also I only recently heard this but 14 is now being called the retirement home for fighting game players, it's for the aging gamer demographic apparently, not necessarily retirement home age, but middle-aged gamers. So perhaps that was the outgoing demographic of when MMOs were the top dogs, MMOs used to be the best way to interact virtually but now we have VR Chats and Facetime, and whatever else kids these days prefer for interacting digitally.

2.) Graphics, Kids ourselves like the prettiest shinies, they always have, and despite the graphical update, ff14 isn't the spring chicken it used to be, games like First Descendant walk all over 14 graphically, however, the difference in graphics in 14 is still closer to the latest anime-looking games than say Wow is to 14. In other words, there is a ceiling cap to graphics depending on the visual aesthetic one is going for, if the goal is 2nd anime looking games then you can only go but so far, and I think we're reaching that threshold now if not already hit it like a truck into a brick wall, now its about making the environmental worlds look as crisp as the characters that inhabit it.

3.) Monetization, kids want their rewards faster I already said this but it begs to be repeated cause when you look at the spending in these newer games, its kids who want to be cool with the cool rich kids who are begging their parents to give them 20 dollars for the newest character or weapon skin, ain't no kid these days grinding Bozja for 100s of hours trying to get field notes for a damn hoverbike mount that resembles one from another almost 20-year-old game in the franchise when mommy and daddy can just buy them the newest cool gun skin, or character skin for the big boobie anime waifu they have.