New Grand Company Gear (04/23/2012)

[Ramsey]

I dunno man.

The way it folds looks a lot like the BRD AF which is already in-game. Also looks like there's strings there, just like the AF.

Then again those could be arrows as well, it's hard to tell.

The bow folds up... what do you think happens to all the bow string when that happens? It has to be looped at least once, otherwise it would just dangle behind you. That doesn't make it a harp.

Perhaps we have to obtain the recipe from grand companies, then craft them with new gathered mats?

The front page of Lodestone does say they're for DoH:

...? That would be possible... if this game used a recipe system. But.. it doesn't?

Have you crafted before?

It's more likely it may take some special materials only attainable through companies, a la the rubber items via the Einherjar NPCs in FFXI.

I don't think the "class-exclusive" means "battle class-exclusive."

If we look at what was in the last March producer letter it says "class-exclusive recipes" with the addendum "planned to be highly challenging synthesis.




I believe there's something SE is keeping secret about the "class-exclusive" part that has to do with DoH.

Either that or battle classes will use some sort of Grand Company facility to craft them theirselves and SE will /memberinthpoopschute to DoHs.

While one would hope DoH and DoL will be getting exciting class specific gear, there was a direct reference to classes like GLA and CON getting their own unique gear. So we know it's coming.

[Rydin]

Awesome... I love them

[Rjain]

Everyone that is complaining about the moogle fist weapons can proceed to harpoon their own rear ends. Best weapon in the game. Will probably remain to be the best weapon in the game for years to come.

I like the bow and crazy space staff. Not a big fan of the glowing bricks but whatevs.

[northernsky]

So these new gear will be provided by crafters. I'm wondering what will the costs and rewards be, and if crafters will only be able to make the gear corresponding to their own GC.

I could see that crafters need to farm, or buy (with gils) the mats, but sell the gear for company seals, either in a dedicated MW category, or via a NPC in the grand company command center.

Currently, there is no limit on how much GC gear is in circulation, but I could see that crafters need to constantly re-supply their GC for those specific gear so fighters can obtain them.
Given the very high cost for current high-end GC gear, this could be extremely rewarding to crafters in terms of seals.

[Sephrick]

...? That would be possible... if this game used a recipe system. But.. it doesn't?

Have you crafted before?

It's more likely it may take some special materials only attainable through companies, a la the rubber items via the Einherjar NPCs in FFXI.

I have crafted lots.

Just because we don't have a recipe book doesn't mean they can't just put a flag on our character.

Try to do the synth before obtaining it and it'll just tell you "You can't do anything with this materials."

Or they can make a simple change to the otherwise useless "Awarded Recipes" tab.

Plenty of ways to do it without adding a recipe book.

While one would hope DoH and DoL will be getting exciting class specific gear, there was a direct reference to classes like GLA and CON getting their own unique gear. So we know it's coming.

I was talking about the recipes, not the items.

Letter from the peoducer says they're "class-exclusive RECIPES" not "class-exclusive EQUIPMENT."

Which leads me to think there's some change to crafting in 1.22 that we haven't heard about yet. After all, aren't most recipes class-exclusive?

[Felis]

What about all this "GC gear"?
It's only in the english translated title

Eine ganze Palette neuer Ausrüstungsgegenständen
A whole range of new equipment

Ajout de nouveaux équipements
Addition of new equipment

[Ramsey]

I have crafted lots.

Just because we don't have a recipe book doesn't mean they can't just put a flag on our character.

Try to do the synth before obtaining it and it'll just tell you "You can't do anything with this materials."

Or they can make a simple change to the otherwise useless "Awarded Recipes" tab.

Plenty of ways to do it without adding a recipe book.



I was talking about the recipes, not the items.

Letter from the peoducer says they're "class-exclusive RECIPES" not "class-exclusive EQUIPMENT."

Which leads me to think there's some change to crafting in 1.22 that we haven't heard about yet. After all, aren't most recipes class-exclusive?

Honestly, I think you're reading too much into semantics in that last bit.

Regarding recipes, what you're saying makes sense, at face value. However, there is currently no example of recipes being flagged with pre-requisites. The only way I could possibly see what you're describing working without adding a new system to the game, is for them to make it a repeatable quest, and require you to use the "craft item for quests" button to make the gear. Which would be seriously shoehorning a system that wasn't intended in.

Now could they easily build in a new pre-requisite system? Sure but that depends on how you define easily. They seem very against building any new systems into the game pre-2.0 whenever avoidable. As well they should, 2.0 is going to be a huge re-factor. Developing new systems in parallel is just asking for more work and trouble.

But my point is that it's far more likely for them to use a system already in place to limit crafting of these items based on company rank, should they choose. Simply adding a untradable item to the GC loot list, and requiring it for these recipes would have the effect. Then the DoH crafting the item would need to be a certain company rank, and to invest company seals per craft.


And to whomever was suggesting a unique auction category for crafters to sell these items for seals... While a neat idea, I would actually facepalm if they spent the time implementing a system like that. Simply due to the development implications vs. what other systems I'd rather see first regarding item sales, trading, etc.

What about all this "GC gear"?
It's only in the english translated title

Eine ganze Palette neuer Ausrüstungsgegenständen
A whole range of new equipment

Ajout de nouveaux équipements
Addition of new equipment

The Japanese is equally devoid of any reference to the companies...


新式装備群について
Regarding new equipment

So either the English team let the cat out of the bag, or they gaffed?

[syntaxlies]

well if nothing else i may finally have a reason to lvl my bsm past 44-45 whatever it is(i forget)

[Travesty]

I want to know who is designing these new weapons, because I want their (figurative)head.

These look ridiculous. They look like plastic toys. As people have said, the LNC and PUG are particularly bad.

It's sad too, because back when this game was announced, and they were releasing all the weapon concept art and renders, it was the most exciting part to me. Seems that art direction has been abandoned.

[Sephrick]

Regarding recipes, what you're saying makes sense, at face value. However, there is currently no example of recipes being flagged with pre-requisites. The only way I could possibly see what you're describing working without adding a new system to the game, is for them to make it a repeatable quest, and require you to use the "craft item for quests" button to make the gear. Which would be seriously shoehorning a system that wasn't intended in.

It wouldn't take some complex system. Do a one-time quest or even just buy the recipe with seals that changes an if statement from no to yes then you can do the recipe at will.