[SAM] I hate the change to Tsubame-gaeshi

[nguyentri11]

In patch 7.05 Tsubame now happens after every Iaijitsu. It probably makes the job easier but I at least like that it's no longer tied to Meikyo. We'll have to see for ourselves.

[Silhart]

In patch 7.05 Tsubame now happens after every Iaijitsu. It probably makes the job easier but I at least like that it's no longer tied to Meikyo. We'll have to see for ourselves.

In a way Tsubame is just reverse Kaiten now lol

[Quor]

In patch 7.05 Tsubame now happens after every Iaijitsu. It probably makes the job easier but I at least like that it's no longer tied to Meikyo. We'll have to see for ourselves.

That 30s duration makes me think that we'll be able to "hold" a Tsubame and use it later instead of being forced to repeat it in the next GCD. Otherwise what's the point of the 30s duration? I can't think of a single disconnect longer than maybe 10s that doesn't force the boss to become untargetable or else lasts longer than 30s. If we can actually pocket a Tsubame going into burst phase then that will add some nice spice to things every two minutes.

[keichirou]

so , sam got all potencies reduced but added the 30s buff for Tsubame-gaeshi Ready.....idk if i like this trade

[CamuiKushi]

I love the trade tbh. It feels like it'll be more potency overall during the rotation and it removes a failstate that didn't exist before DT. This just might be enough to make it my go-to melee again.

[nguyentri11]

That 30s duration makes me think that we'll be able to "hold" a Tsubame and use it later instead of being forced to repeat it in the next GCD. Otherwise what's the point of the 30s duration? I can't think of a single disconnect longer than maybe 10s that doesn't force the boss to become untargetable or else lasts longer than 30s. If we can actually pocket a Tsubame going into burst phase then that will add some nice spice to things every two minutes.

It seems we can pocket a Tsubame even after doing other GCDs which I like. That means we can take advantage of Kaeshi: Midare's 6 yalm range if the boss forces you out for that much range. Can just hold a Tsubame for that moment.

[Valence]

Does this mean slow samurai is dead?

[StriderZessei]

so , sam got all potencies reduced but added the 30s buff for Tsubame-gaeshi Ready.....idk if i like this trade

It's a net buff.

[Wyssahtyn]

it just me or does this just say the same thing twice?

[Shurrikhan]

Still at work, so still going of the patch notes themselves for now, but...

Wasn't the whole point of TG that it the duplication was supposed to be exciting? How do they remove Kaiten for being action bloat and yet turn TG into nearly the same (just capitalizing instead of preparatory)?

I would much rather have just had TG reverted to its Endwalker state or had Meikyo's TG unlock last for 60s and until consumed (instead of, bizarrely, until just after it has the *opportunity to* be consumed).