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  1. #1661
    Player Bananarama's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    It would not. I've said it many times, I'm not a fan of Sena's voice acting. Respecting the person behind the voice though, that takes very little effort. neo-western lol. Right, because America is a totally safe place for trans people LOL
    Look at this cope. Taking little effort is not a valid reason to compel somebody to do that.
    >implying it's not one of the countries that bends over backwards the most to accommodate them

    Nobody is obligated to respect the actor behind the voice, by the way. Are you upset that Plumerian_Ariadust has a point? :^)
    Why is it that reasonable, polite disagreements like Plumerian's are considered anywhere from lolworthy and failing to be a decent person, to no longer being deserving of being in polite society?
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  2. #1662
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bananarama View Post
    Nobody is obligated to respect the actor behind the voice, by the way.
    No, they aren't. However, we can roll our eyes and think 'If only they knew it cheapens, or invalidates their opinion".

    Now, maybe - likely even - that doesn't bother the poster, however it just adds more ammunition to the 'all Wuk haters are transphobes' side of the argument which means... Look forward to this characters English VA for the next 10 years (for anyone still using English voices)
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  3. #1663
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    I really think we should continue to focus on the performance, and not specifically Sena's being trans. There is a lot to critique, but I think someone's personal feeling on transgenderism goes far beyond the scope of Wuk Lamat's voice acting and is best left for another forum.

    We already have well-renowned characters like Bart Simpson who is male and voiced by a female, so the actor's gender specifically should not really be a concern. How well they do in the role I think is more fair game.
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    Last edited by ZephyrMenodora; 07-30-2024 at 11:28 AM. Reason: typos

  4. #1664
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I really think we should continue to focus on the performance...
    i agree and i apologize i am just sick to death of that user telling everyone how to speak. normally i don't get so irritated by bait, but lol.

    i'm only here because i love FFXIV and want better quality. i was sorely disappointed with this performance that changed the way i play the game.
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  5. #1665
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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBittyShark View Post
    i agree and i apologize i am just sick to death of that user telling everyone how to speak. normally i don't get so irritated by bait, but lol.

    i'm only here because i love FFXIV and want better quality. i was sorely disappointed with this performance that changed the way i play the game.
    I was very disappointed in the acting as well. I did try to like Wuk Lamat, even though I immediately disliked her even in the EW patches. I pre-ordered DT and really wanted to enjoy the story, and her acting just didn't help. (Luckily I'm in love with Sphene, so ... that helped make up for it lol).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I was very disappointed in the acting as well. I did try to like Wuk Lamat, even though I immediately disliked her even in the EW patches. I pre-ordered DT and really wanted to enjoy the story, and her acting just didn't help. (Luckily I'm in love with Sphene, so ... that helped make up for it lol).
    to be honest i actually really like Wuk Lamat but i do admit she has a lot of problems that i'm hoping get sorted out with some better writing. her Japanese VA did a very stellar job at bringing her to life. i think a part of the reason so many people hate Lamaty'i is because of the bad English voice work. she is by no means a perfect character but she is greatly more enjoyable when she has that genki girl oomph to her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    French Wuk was quality acting. Didn't fix the writing, but it stopped me skipping everything.


    I've not listened to German Wuk yet, but in terms of acting skill

    1. French
    2. Japan
    ...
    ...
    776 English.
    Wow you’re generous even ranking it all lol.

    But here’s one Pre-DT aka her introduction to us https://youtu.be/Du_wJWEkV3k

    And here’s one Mid-DT https://youtu.be/wVr8s6AKHMs

    It’s only snippets but it’s enough to see the differences imo.

    Edit to add: I still have to get through my 3rd Alt so I might change to German cuz that one is my fav sounding one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBittyShark View Post
    to be honest i actually really like Wuk Lamat but i do admit she has a lot of problems that i'm hoping get sorted out with some better writing. her Japanese VA did a very stellar job at bringing her to life. i think a part of the reason so many people hate Lamaty'i is because of the bad English voice work. she is by no means a perfect character but she is greatly more enjoyable when she has that genki girl oomph to her.
    I think she overstayed her welcome. I think by her coronation she should have sat out the rest of the story. I felt she was smothering, and having bad voice acting to go along with it made me far more upset than a reasonable person should be.

    I only took solace when I could

    1. Refuse to hold her hand.
    2. Hint she is incompetent
    3. Leave her out of Trust Dungeons
    4. Refuse to call her LlamaTea
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  9. #1669
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    I would prefer to hear a Spanish VA..or Quechua.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I think she overstayed her welcome. I think by her coronation she should have sat out the rest of the story. I felt she was smothering, and having bad voice acting to go along with it made me far more upset than a reasonable person should be.

    I only took solace when I could

    1. Refuse to hold her hand.
    2. Hint she is incompetent
    3. Leave her out of Trust Dungeons
    4. Refuse to call her LlamaTea
    LOL. i can definitely see how people feel the way that you do. i think i was just enamored that we had a big catgirl NPC tbh. if she was a midlander or something i'd probably find her as grating as most people do. i have such a silly bias.
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