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  1. #21
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    Vatom's Avatar
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    Vatom Basilisk
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    Midgardsormr
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vandi View Post
    And my GOD that crystal must get pushed around the ever lovin’ WORLD when you don’t have the dps to clear it. Warms my heart when the blm and Sam step out the way for the brd & dancer. Yess sir.
    Yeah again I think you had a sense of the right idea but not seeing the real issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vandi View Post
    Agreed. An unbuffed Wyrmwind Thrust + Marksman's Spite simultaneously on a target will be nothing more than a spiritually uplifting experience.
    So 46k dmg might kill a healer but then again if your letting that happen is it really their fault that you got got

    Um. *ahem*
    3.0 4.0
    We…
    . . .actually. . .
    . . .had it. I know I know I know[/QUOTE]

    And we also had a full kit
    We also had healer being targeted
    We also had less players even playing
    Oh how is the feast doing again?
    Once again I understand what your getting at but do you understand what your asking for?

    Also if you bump up the dmg do you think the other team won’t have that dmg so did we go anywhere or is it now worst?
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  2. #22
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    Vandi's Avatar
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    Devil'von Panzerfaust
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    I can see we’re going round and round here, so having stated my experiences, I’ll leave it at that. If you take pleasure in justifying the numbers these jobs put out, you do you. I’ll just conclude by saying when you break 1 mil dps and still lose because your brd and reaper couldn’t break 300, remember it was you who said how wonderfully supportive they were, and that somewhere, a blue femroe is laughing her azz off.
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    ‘He who has no expectations will never be disappointed.’

  3. #23
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    Roguewaves's Avatar
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    Tristan Death
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Vandi View Post
    Since the golden age of 2-3.0, it feels like the dev’s have gone out their way to water pvp down. Why? Perhaps to make it easier for the typical casual to have a chance at enjoying it. Alright. Sure. This basically penalizes any individual who sat down, took the time to learn their job, and became ferocious with it. Nope, can’t have that kind of output in pvp aaany more. So let’s do all we can to scale it down.
    I find it funny you start off your logic with the following but then complain that RPR, PLD, DNC, & BRD don't have enough carry potential. I know you said you're specifically referring to casuals and not vets but there's no way of making changes just for casuals without affecting the rest of the player base.

    This is just like the PVE discussion. You're basically arguing for homogenization. What makes those 4 jobs you listed fun, in the context of FFXIV's most basic iteration of PVP yet, is that they require a little more testing out to master it. It's impressive seeing a RPR, BRD or PLD be top dmg in CC (DNCs have no problem). In crystal CC matches PLD & BRD are favorites.

    Some people like choosing "underrated jobs" to master and by making them all easy to pick up for casuals (which I'd argue they already are = BRD is the go-to for new pvp players) you'd be removing this.
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  4. #24
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    Vandi's Avatar
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    Devil'von Panzerfaust
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    Excalibur
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Roguewaves View Post
    I find it funny you start off your logic with the following but then complain that RPR, PLD, DNC, & BRD don't have enough carry potential. I know you said you're specifically referring to casuals and not vets but there's no way of making changes just for casuals without affecting the rest of the player base.
    My above statement was ment to show that carry potential was removed, so that each job now HAS to pull its weight. Compared to the 1-shot burst potential of 2-3.0, individual jobs (save for mch/mnk clean lbs) have no where NEAR the killspeed they previously had. So when you get stuck with jobs that by DEFAULT already have low outputs vs other jobs, in the hands of a casual, in a typical casual match (which is ALL I’m discussing here, NOT ranked matches), 9/10 times it’s a death sentence. And as of late PcT needs to be added to the list. When I see a combination of these jobs (dnc, brd, pct etc) on one team, vs something like Sam, drg, smn on the other, I pretty much know I’m dead out the gate because of the typically low output from these. Does it happen ALL the time? No. But when you play a billion matches a week…you start to see patterns.
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    ‘He who has no expectations will never be disappointed.’

  5. #25
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    FatCatEnjoyer's Avatar
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    K'lani Heartthorn
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    it's just a casual match? gg go next
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