Pictomancer is insanely overtuned and needs to be fixed before savage drops.

[MrJPtheAssassin]

RDM to me is just as easy as smn...I don't understand how ppl think its much harder. Sure it has more hard casting than smn that I agree with but I be honest its not that much more demanding. I just say this...I played rdm during the first tier of EW and it was just as boring to me as smn was. It didn't challenge me at all in savage and felt a lot like smn. Again Im a old SMN main and I miss SB smn every single day I log into ff14. I will never forgive the dev team for what they did to smn in EW. They deleted a decently good job. Either way, I personally think SMN and RDM should always be near each other in dps. They both have decent amount of movement tools tho smn is basically a phy range and both have rezs. They even have similar unities. That said RDM probably should be slightly above SMN just bc it does have to hardcast more but not by that much. Picto IMO is the only caster outside BLM that needs to be near melee dps bc it doesn't have a rez but has the same utilities as any other job. It also IMO has way more hardcasting than rdm.

[Magikazam]

RDM to me is just as easy as smn...I don't understand how ppl think its much harder. Sure it has more hard casting than smn that I agree with but I be honest its not that much more demanding. I just say this...I played rdm during the first tier of EW and it was just as boring to me as smn was. It didn't challenge me at all in savage and felt a lot like smn. Again Im a old SMN main and I miss SB smn every single day I log into ff14. I will never forgive the dev team for what they did to smn in EW. They deleted a decently good job. Either way, I personally think SMN and RDM should always be near each other in dps. They both have decent amount of movement tools tho smn is basically a phy range and both have rezs. They even have similar unities. That said RDM probably should be slightly above SMN just bc it does have to hardcast more but not by that much. Picto IMO is the only caster outside BLM that needs to be near melee dps bc it doesn't have a rez but has the same utilities as any other job. It also IMO has way more hardcasting than rdm.

It not that RDM is that hard, it that SMN is so easy that you could easily fit it entire rotation into a single macro button and wouldn't have a problem.

[Ggwppino]

You have a strange logic, what about smn and rdm then? They have buffs too but don't compete in damage on par vs melees

Smn is a joke and this job for a balance sake should not even perform in high-end content. Rdm is a joke too, but actually is a job that sure deserve more balance but before smn pre EW nuke was considerate a really high movement and really semplicistic caster even by dev.

[rewd]

Smn is a joke and this job for a balance sake should not even perform in high-end content. Rdm is a joke too, but actually is a job that sure deserve more balance but before smn pre EW nuke was considerate a really high movement and really semplicistic caster even by dev.

RDM catching strays by people that don't even play it is wild.

[MrJPtheAssassin]

RDM catching strays by people that don't even play it is wild.

Rdm was the most simplest caster in SB and ShB tho. That only changed because the devs decided for some reason to dumb down smn and completely nuke the job. Nothing else has really changed tho since Rdm has never really changed or anything since SB. Btw I know this because I have played Rdm in the past. In fact I clear the first tier of EW as Rdm and found it just as easy as SMN. So easy that it put me to sleep towards the end of the tier.

[Lyth]

Seeing as we have more data on this now, I'm curious why PCT isn't under more scrutiny. It's not like this is a job without utility. It has fairly good movement, a 60s recast 20% personal mitigation tool and a 90s recast 10% raidwide mitigation tool (that actually works on all damage types, unlike some tank raid mitigations). I don't even think Arcane Crest survived untouched for as long, last expansion. You essentially have a utility caster with extremely strong aDPS and rDPS.

I know that they want PCT to be represented in upcoming Savage clears, which requires it to essentially be unconditionally better than BLM in all respects given that it's competing without a Raise. But I'm surprised that they haven't dialed something back.

[Supersnow845]

Seeing as we have more data on this now, I'm curious why PCT isn't under more scrutiny. It's not like this is a job without utility. It has fairly good movement, a 60s recast 20% personal mitigation tool and a 90s recast 10% raidwide mitigation tool (that actually works on all damage types, unlike some tank raid mitigations). I don't even think Arcane Crest survived untouched for as long, last expansion. You essentially have a utility caster with extremely strong aDPS and rDPS.

I know that they want PCT to be represented in upcoming Savage clears, which requires it to essentially be unconditionally better than BLM in all respects given that it's competing without a Raise. But I'm surprised that they haven't dialed something back.

I’m assuming it’s because if you look at PCT below 99 it quickly drops away back into the “low melee pDPS high melee rDPS” range they wanted it in the first place, it’s only 99 and up that it pulls away because of insane crit variation in the starry muse window as you have 4 above 1000 potency attacks that can crit (star prism, rainbow drip, wings/jaw and mog/madeen) and then another 4 above 800 potency (cyan, yellow, magenta and comet)

I think they should just make star prism and rainbow drip auto crit but bring them down in potency so that the new potency+auto crit= 1400/1000 potency, maybe do the same to comet. That should bring down its insane gold parses without affect the fact that it’s really well balanced at anything below 99 and the real problem there is BLM

[CKNovel]

Seeing as we have more data on this now, I'm curious why PCT isn't under more scrutiny. It's not like this is a job without utility. It has fairly good movement, a 60s recast 20% personal mitigation tool and a 90s recast 10% raidwide mitigation tool (that actually works on all damage types, unlike some tank raid mitigations). I don't even think Arcane Crest survived untouched for as long, last expansion. You essentially have a utility caster with extremely strong aDPS and rDPS.

I know that they want PCT to be represented in upcoming Savage clears, which requires it to essentially be unconditionally better than BLM in all respects given that it's competing without a Raise. But I'm surprised that they haven't dialed something back.

Arcane Crest was cut in half in 6.05, which is probably where we'll see the first wave of nerf, hopefully.
Picto shield is slightly more valuable than RDM magic barrier due to its shield nature in an environment where we can easily fit 50%~60% mitigation that cannibalize each other effectiveness, unlike barriers.
On top of that, Star Prism heals for whatever reason...? But thankfully it's pretty much toned down.

SQEX overevaluates Raise on SMN/RDM and BLM is unbalanced at the moment and will probably hit once more melee levels.

What also grinds my mind is how Smudge is 20s with a built-in sprint but WHM and SGE are stuck on 60s/45s. Even DNC's "En Avant" isn't that strong.
Pictomancer has too many strength, we're basically in a RPR 6.0 situation but even worse.

[Supersnow845]

Arcane Crest was cut in half in 6.05, which is probably where we'll see the first wave of nerf, hopefully.
Picto shield is slightly more valuable than RDM magic barrier due to its shield nature in an environment where we can easily fit 50%~60% mitigation that cannibalize each other effectiveness, unlike barriers.
On top of that, Star Prism heals for whatever reason...? But thankfully it's pretty much toned down.

SQEX overevaluates Raise on SMN/RDM and BLM is unbalanced at the moment and will probably hit once more melee levels.

What also grinds my mind is how Smudge is 20s with a built-in sprint but WHM and SGE are stuck on 60s/45s. Even DNC's "En Avant" isn't that strong.
Pictomancer has too many strength, we're basically in a RPR 6.0 situation but even worse.

I don’t think SGE and WHM’s gap closers should matter here as they are both pointless fluff as neither of them actually needs a gap closer (SGE’s was to fit the “techy aesthetic” WHM was just so they could hide the fact that class got nothing in the 90-100 range.) Neither of them need gap closers nor does DNC really

Smudge should only really be compared to aetherial manipulation/between the lines and I think in that instance BLM’s is better for what casters are attempting to achieve with their turrety design

Star prism really doesn’t need a heal though

[Ramiee]

Rdm was the most simplest caster in SB and ShB tho. That only changed because the devs decided for some reason to dumb down smn and completely nuke the job. Nothing else has really changed tho since Rdm has never really changed or anything since SB. Btw I know this because I have played Rdm in the past. In fact I clear the first tier of EW as Rdm and found it just as easy as SMN. So easy that it put me to sleep towards the end of the tier.

It's harder than SMN but not really that hard. Really the fact RDM is no longer the brain dead caster shows that the playerbase is losing skill across the board. The fact we have a "caster" that can literally do everything on one button macro is absurd. Really RDM should be the easiest a caster should be, it's mind boggling to me that they decided to make a caster even easier than it.