They should pause houses demolition for a time

[Slayer25c]

house demolition should only start once every plot is taken anyway. on my servers theres tons and tons of empty plots available. yet we still have demolition.

If u gone for so long u lose your house idk why this a surprise to u all

[Rueby]

No way they'd unshackle us from the garbage housing system so long as it's a source of revenue....Might be doomium but this is why I think the player housing issue will never be 'fixed', it's scarce on purpose. If it's not, then you can just unsub and get it later and the one who's losing is SE.

I don't think they'd pause housing demo due to bad reception, it'd be not only admitting they delivered a bad product, but on top of it, it'd be 'guys we messed up, you can unsub now'. At best you'll get the usual Yoshi P damage control PR statement + apology + we'll do better please look forward to it and people will be satisfied apparently, or they'd just ignore it.

I remained subbed for my house, character and the memories of my favorite characters. The MSQ post EW has no merit for me, all my fav chars 'died' 69 times already and the post EW MSQ actually made me ragequit it after so many years. I'm so dissatisfied with how some characters became worse versions of themselves, G'raha into an actual fanboy and Estinien into comic relief. I remained subbed because I had my character and ways to go see the characters I love even if the writers hate them and if the MSQ is written for the 'majority'.

But DT actually made my character worse, removed the one feature I loved about her (her nose), and altered her appearance. Ruined alot of facial expressions, ruining GPOSE for me.
The lighting in my house actually broke and while I know they'll fix it, I don't trust them they'd be able to restore it to how it was.
??? I'm actually scared to see how my fav chars got affected by the graphical changes, I saw Yotsuyu and her eyelashes clip through her eyelids...and she's blinking nonstop???

I wish they took more time to work on this overhaul rather than deliver this to us....I accepted that the MSQ might not be for me. I had low standards for DT because how can you top 10 years of story? But I don't even want to do the MSQ....

I want to be hopeful/positive or whatever....You could say if I don't like it maybe I should stop, and I did, I went to play other games like BG3, GW2, even dipped my toes into Gacha games....but at heart I really love this game and I wish it was better. I'm really sad about this honestly.

[AvoSturmfaust]

Timer should stay active all the time, play or atleast log in once a month if you wanna keep your house, or you give other players a chance for it and no, instanced housing is shit, i actually like the fact i can see other players houses and my neighbors

[LianaThorne]

Yeah, sure. Making someone loose their house (which is often worth more than 25-30 millions, if not much, much more) because they dared to take a break is a very good idea. Spoiler : it's not, and we all should ask for a change in this system instead of shaming people who just want to keep their house AND be able to be away from the game during 2 months.

We've been asking for...*checks notes* at least 4 years (that's how long I've personally seen threads bringing up housing changes).

The reality is, if we were going to get instanced housing we would have gotten it instead of the lottery.

If we were going to get instanced housing, we would have gotten it instead of Island Sanctuary.

If we were going to get instanced housing, we would be getting it instead of Mirage.

The devs WANT this. It is clear as day at this point and this is ultimately their game. Turning off demo would screw out anyone in the future who wants a house. Everyone here who owns a house was able to get it because (unless youre in Dynamis) someone else stopped playing and their house went back into circulation.

Ultimately, ya'll just have to decide what's more important, your house or the subscription cost. Personally if you're only staying around because you have anxiety over losing the house, I would consider whether or not it's actually healthy for you.

[Avoidy]

Your entire post explains why they have 0 incentive to do this. You've literally just told them that they produced subpar content for two years but you continued to give them money because you wanted to keep your house. With that in mind, why on earth would they read that and see the system as anything other than a success?
Thousands of players are in your situation right now, where they want to leave but they don't want to lose the home they've dumped so much time and love into. It sucks. And it's by design. They know they've created this effect and they're happy that people feel this way because it keeps them in business.

All you can do is take lots of pictures of your home and then just unsub anyway. If DT's actual combat content hadn't been good (imo), I would've been in your shoes as well. My solo fc house has separate rooms for all my alts too, so that's dozens and dozens of hours of making alts and getting them to the point where they could buy an fc room and then decorating the rooms and blablablablabla, and the hous eis on balmung so if I lost it you know I'd never own it again, but if DT sucked in terms of story and content I was mentally prepped to walk. I'm glad the content was good.

[Merrigan]

Understand that owned goods in a video game are ephemeral and life will be easier.

It's got nothing to do with that, just misplaced condescension. There's a difference between knowing that your """virtual home‘’‘’ will be destroyed the day the servers shut down, and not being able to take a break. Because that's how the system is designed: you can't really stop subscribing for more than two months if you have a house. In a game that claims to allow you to stop whenever you want, that's a bit strange.

[Merrigan]

We've been asking for...*checks notes* at least 4 years (that's how long I've personally seen threads bringing up housing changes).

The reality is, if we were going to get instanced housing we would have gotten it instead of the lottery.

If we were going to get instanced housing, we would have gotten it instead of Island Sanctuary.

If we were going to get instanced housing, we would be getting it instead of Mirage.

The devs WANT this. It is clear as day at this point and this is ultimately their game. Turning off demo would screw out anyone in the future who wants a house. Everyone here who owns a house was able to get it because (unless youre in Dynamis) someone else stopped playing and their house went back into circulation.

Ultimately, ya'll just have to decide what's more important, your house or the subscription cost. Personally if you're only staying around because you have anxiety over losing the house, I would consider whether or not it's actually healthy for you.

I'm.. not staying for this, though ? You (you and the one to whom I responded just before) are aware that we can denounce a system without being concerned, or having an underlying psychological condition? Or must we at all costs psychiatrize people through screens because deep down, you have no argument?

Once again, it has nothing to do with the cost of subscription, inappropriate attachment or anything else. This is an observation: the fact that housing is potentially one of the most expensive contents of this game, but also the one which is the most fragile because the only one to be subject to an expiration date (imagine if your character could be simply deleted if you don't connect at least every two months) shows that the system is sick.

It's also a profound shame because an instantiated houisng, coupled with the current housing system, would create a real drain of money in a game where inflation is galloping.

[LianaThorne]

I'm.. not staying for this, though ? You (you and the one to whom I responded just before) are aware that we can denounce a system without being concerned, or having an underlying psychological condition? Or must we at all costs psychiatrize people through screens because deep down, you have no argument?

My comment wasn't directed specifically at you, though if you're feeling some sort of way about it then I don't really know what to say to that. I specifically said "yall" and phrased it as a general comment. But yeah, if you're (you're meaning general) only playing the game because you're afraid of losing a house then that's unhealthy in my eyes.

Once again, it has nothing to do with the cost of subscription, inappropriate attachment or anything else. This is an observation: the fact that housing is potentially one of the most expensive contents of this game, but also the one which is the most fragile because the only one to be subject to an expiration date (imagine if your character could be simply deleted if you don't connect at least every two months) shows that the system is sick.

As I've said to people in the past, I don't hold deep attachments to my characters. One day the game will shut down (hell the game could shut down tomorrow if it really wanted to) or we'll get to an age where we can't game anymore and lose them anyway. Better (in my opinion) to enjoy things while they last but not hold onto them too tightly. We're also in an age of media where things CAN just be taken away from us (streaming services delisting original movies/tv shows and making them unwatchable anywhere anymore without pirating for example). I highly encourage doing some research into whether or not we actually own anything anymore when it comes to digital media, it's pretty fascinating.

It's also a profound shame because an instantiated houisng, coupled with the current housing system, would create a real drain of money in a game where inflation is galloping.

Eh. Even if you create instanced housing and give people a house, once they finish decorating it then what? Or, to take from another person's example in an earlier thread: "Once they finish upgrading their house, then what?"

It's a temporary gil sink. That's all. RMT will still run rampant if FCs still exist and allow for submarines to be built. We also have the obvious problem of people overcharging for everything in NA compared to other DCs. I don't see giving people a house fixing the larger issues there.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Nah they should just let you sell the plot for market value

[Merrigan]

As I've said to people in the past, I don't hold deep attachments to my characters. One day the game will shut down (hell the game could shut down tomorrow if it really wanted to) or we'll get to an age where we can't game anymore and lose them anyway. Better (in my opinion) to enjoy things while they last but not hold onto them too tightly. We're also in an age of media where things CAN just be taken away from us (streaming services delisting original movies/tv shows and making them unwatchable anywhere anymore without pirating for example). I highly encourage doing some research into whether or not we actually own anything anymore when it comes to digital media, it's pretty fascinating.

(I took it personally becauseyou were responding specifically to me. So yes, of course I assumed it was addressed to me).

There's no question here of wanting to keep something indefinitely; of claiming that your avatar / your house / any virtual possession are eternal things; or even of getting into considerations about the reality of our possessions in digital media. You're going way too far here, and while I enjoy this kind of debate it's simply irrelevant. We're not talking here about non-ownership that would be the result of the virtual age, but non-ownership that is the result of a flawed system. FF didn't set up this demolition system with a view to dispossessing its players - although there could be a retention mechanism - but because the game couldn't keep up with demand.

So to return to the comparison with your character: the question is not to be too attached to it because the servers will one day be closed; but whether you would play a game that would delete your characters if you don't log in at least every two months, while the game in question continues to work.

It's a temporary gil sink.

better than nothing + don't underestimate the need to redecorate, and the tentation to buy another house.