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    Quote Originally Posted by AlysCamoa View Post
    just cutting our way through the city to reach Zoraal?
    Why are you comparing AI powered memories to actual living people in the city? Especially considering that good part of them are Tuliyollal people that got hit by the dome.
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    I see we all played through different MSQs where Origenics isn’t supplying the rest of Alexandria as well, apparently. Did anyone happen to play a version written by a less incompetent writer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlysCamoa View Post
    I see we all played through different MSQs where Origenics isn’t supplying the rest of Alexandria as well, apparently. Did anyone happen to play a version written by a less incompetent writer?
    Sorry you missed the part where they say that alexandria itself is self sufficient in terms of soul supply. <3 NG+ button is right there, press it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlysCamoa View Post
    “These people,” except none of them have any agency in the actions committed by their monarch, even if those actions are done to perpetuate their own lives. Remind me why we cared about anyone in Alexandria, again? Why we wasted time learning how they farm instead of just cutting our way through the city to reach Zoraal?
    I know the writer said we don’t do these things because we’d rather put Tuliyollal- full of civilians who just suffered one sudden attack- at risk again. But I’m asking under your logic as you’ve just proposed it:If any action take against Alexandrians is justified by Sphene’s intentions, then why should we not kill our way to Zoraal, and then the Meso Terminal?
    I don't recall saying anything like that, but: Zoraal Ja is dead before we ever learn that Living Memory or the Meso Terminal exist. We spent that part of the arc thinking we were helping Sphene rebel against him. It's not until after he's dead that she declares she's going through with the dimensional merge anyway. And at that point, there's no reason to go through Solution 9, because Sphene isn't there anymore. So the living Alexandrians aren't even a factor in that part of the final arc. So, no, there was never a justification to go on a killing spree through the city.
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    At this point it's only a matter of time before someone gets so upset about all this that they post a fanfic rewrite of the expansion where Wuk Lamat's role as top story NPC is replaced by a blonde Russian OC, Wuk Lamat herself turns into a caricature, and everybody tells Alphinaud he's wrong about everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    At this point it's only a matter of time before someone gets so upset about all this that they post a fanfic rewrite of the expansion where Wuk Lamat's role as top story NPC is replaced by a blonde Russian OC, Wuk Lamat herself turns into a caricature, and everybody tells Alphinaud he's wrong about everything.
    And it will be praised as the highest-quality writing that ever existed, given how people speak as if they are masters in writing and everyone else is incompetent or illiterate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    At this point it's only a matter of time before someone gets so upset about all this that they post a fanfic rewrite of the expansion where Wuk Lamat's role as top story NPC is replaced by a blonde Russian OC, Wuk Lamat herself turns into a caricature, and everybody tells Alphinaud he's wrong about everything.
    That sounds amazing, omg.
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    Definitely a setup when you keep asking "is there a better way" but the only path before you is death and destruction.

    Then again we have always been the Ascians - it is just becoming more obvious now how we view "lower" life forms - from adorable wildlife to literal gods - with absolute contempt and their existence as meaningless and unnecessary except as a resource to be harvested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avenger View Post
    it is just becoming more obvious now how we view "lower" life forms - from adorable wildlife to literal gods - with absolute contempt and their existence as meaningless and unnecessary except as a resource to be harvested.
    Am I taking crazy pills or was that the EXACT reason we were fighting Sphene???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avenger View Post
    Definitely a setup when you keep asking "is there a better way" but the only path before you is death and destruction.

    Then again we have always been the Ascians - it is just becoming more obvious now how we view "lower" life forms - from adorable wildlife to literal gods - with absolute contempt and their existence as meaningless and unnecessary except as a resource to be harvested.
    If they didn't want to be harvested they should stop dropping weapons and armor.
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