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  1. #4621
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    Chajii's Avatar
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    Asklepiooze Gazel
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    Belias
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gorondu View Post
    You dark knights are so used to low mitigation, that you are happy with anything, lol. Sad to see. Feel sorry for drk mains.
    【Main Class: DRG Lv90】 Are you enjoying your only mitigation, Elusive Jump? Dying prevents you from taking further damage so remember to backflip on cooldown (^_−)−☆
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    転化の「回復魔法20%上昇」を「回復効果20%上昇」にしてくださいお願いします!
    Please change the "increases healing magic potency by 20%" of Dissipation into "increases HP recovery via healing actions by 20%"!

  2. #4622
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    Nayu Schattenfell
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    Omega
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Chajii View Post
    【Main Class: DRG Lv90】 Are you enjoying your only mitigation, Elusive Jump? Dying prevents you from taking further damage so remember to backflip on cooldown (^_−)−☆
    At least I can heal myself

    PLD and WAR are my tanks. I enjoy DRK mechanic wise, but it just feels very squishy, or better say, dependent on good healers.
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    Last edited by Gorondu; 07-20-2024 at 05:21 AM.

  3. #4623
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    Kalaam Nozalys
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    Phantom
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Mechanics ? Where ?
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  4. #4624
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    Belias
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gorondu View Post
    At least I can heal myself

    PLD and WAR are my tanks. I enjoy DRK mechanic wise, but it just feels very squishy, or better say, dependent on good healers.
    Perhaps you are not using TBN as much as you imagine, if you use TBN on cooldown during trash pulls, an average healer should be able to easily keep you alive.

     r.i.p. Dark Arts (ability)
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    転化の「回復魔法20%上昇」を「回復効果20%上昇」にしてくださいお願いします!
    Please change the "increases healing magic potency by 20%" of Dissipation into "increases HP recovery via healing actions by 20%"!

  5. #4625
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    Gorondu's Avatar
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    Nayu Schattenfell
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    Omega
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Chajii View Post
    Perhaps you are not using TBN as much as you imagine, if you use TBN on cooldown during trash pulls, an average healer should be able to easily keep you alive.

     r.i.p. Dark Arts (ability)
    TBN is good, but compared to the other Tank sustain it lost its strength. Check the logs of the tanks. DRK is second lowest dps (even the difference is small) and is the least sustaining tank by far. TBN was nice for big hits back in Shadowbringer, but in the meantime it does feel weaker even for big hits compared to the other buffed tanks.
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  6. #4626
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    Aelin Ashriver
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 98
    Drk sustain imo is just right. You can tank hits as is expected of you as the tank, you just dont get to heal yourself to full like a war or pld can.

    The other three tanks have too much self sustain. Long overdue a nerf.

    I'd love drk to get some identity back on spending mana and managing it more as a resource. Spamming one button to spend mana is dull. Sure you use tbn and I like that skill, but it's not much for engagement.
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  7. #4627
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    Oizen's Avatar
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gorondu View Post
    You dark knights are so used to low mitigation, that you are happy with anything, lol. Sad to see. Feel sorry for drk mains.
    I would actually say Dawntrail made an active attempt to introduce Magic damage to trash packs. Its still not perfect but there are some pulls now where Dark Mind goes pretty hard
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  8. #4628
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    Ryaduera Tengille
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    Leviathan
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    I would actually say Dawntrail made an active attempt to introduce Magic damage to trash packs. Its still not perfect but there are some pulls now where Dark Mind goes pretty hard
    No, because DRK lacks other percentage mitigations (Mostly Oblation being as trash weak as it is next to other tanks) it actually still takes more damage even in pure magic pulls.
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    Last edited by Ryaduera; 07-21-2024 at 10:40 AM.
    Filled to the brim with salt, vinegar, and unpopular opinions.

    Nobody told me Fantasias were addictive, now I have to go to rehab.

  9. #4629
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaduera View Post
    No, because DRK lacks other percentage mitigations (Mostly Oblation being as trash weak as it is next to other tanks) it actually still takes more damage even in pure magic pulls.
    Can't say thats really been my experience.
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  10. #4630
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    Thane Ryder
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaduera View Post
    (Mostly Oblation being as trash weak as it is next to other tanks)
    Compared to what? Oblation is a free mitigation we got when other tanks got upgrades to their short CDs, no other tank has an analog button.

    Any tank mechanic that requires a lot of mits, like Mountain of Fire in EX1 or conga line in EX2 currently, DRK is on par or better than other tanks (largely due to it being magic damage and you can abuse short CD on TBN on both). It's self-sustain we're missing, mitigation is not a problem at all.
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