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    W00by's Avatar
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    Luka Aalekai
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    Midgardsormr
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    Viper Lv 100
    If you wanna look at my logs since Heavensward, I've raided on SMN, BLM, RDM, DNC, and of course all the melees. Ive also played GNB, WAR, and PLD. I have done the most recent raids on RDM and have talked to lots of other casters about them. I've also watched healer clears of turns 2 and 3. I do think if you're trying to eke out EVERY drip of potency as a caster, it's of course going to be a lot harder. Just like if you're trying to hit every single positional, it's going to be harder.

    I have a limited number of space in these posts, and I'm already verbose as it is, so I don't want to predicate every single caster comment with "except Black Mage that one's hard." I'm sure it is pretty hard on Black Mage. But having done it on Red Mage, I thought optimal RDM was much, much easier than optimal melee.

    Now, check yourself before posting hostile stuff like this. I don't like to flex player experience, but I'm not "meleesplaining" anything. I play every role but healer, but you'll notice I don't talk about healer because, unlike you, I know my limits.
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    Aco Nale
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    Moogle
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by W00by View Post
    I have a limited number of space in these posts
    Just post anything and edit it after. It'll let you write as much as you want. You can just prepare the full text beforehand, post a part, then edit it and add the full version.
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    Tolo Rewd
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    Spriggan
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by W00by View Post
    If you wanna look at my logs since Heavensward, I've raided on SMN, BLM, RDM, DNC, and of course all the melees. Ive also played GNB, WAR, and PLD. I have done the most recent raids on RDM and have talked to lots of other casters about them. I've also watched healer clears of turns 2 and 3. I do think if you're trying to eke out EVERY drip of potency as a caster, it's of course going to be a lot harder. Just like if you're trying to hit every single positional, it's going to be harder.

    I have a limited number of space in these posts, and I'm already verbose as it is, so I don't want to predicate every single caster comment with "except Black Mage that one's hard." I'm sure it is pretty hard on Black Mage. But having done it on Red Mage, I thought optimal RDM was much, much easier than optimal melee.

    Now, check yourself before posting hostile stuff like this. I don't like to flex player experience, but I'm not "meleesplaining" anything. I play every role but healer, but you'll notice I don't talk about healer because, unlike you, I know my limits.
    Who cares about your logs? I didn't even mention them. And who cares about past expansions? We are talking about DT and Arcadion, if you haven't noticed. You talked about some things being very easy for casters, even though you, objectively, barely have experience with them. In other words: you have no idea what you are talking about.

    And yes, if you want to generalise an entire role, you should have the decency to specify what you are talking about. You won't ever see me in the forums saying "X and Y are actually easy on melee" just because I play VPR and I have 3 gap closers and bankable Uncoiled Fury stacks, because I acknowledge there are differences within the role, and we are talking about a much more homogenised role compared to casters.

    "Hostile" meaning "I don't know what I'm talking about and I get mad when someone calls me out". And you know your limits? Is this why I just saw you in the thread about Starry Muse, having absolutely no idea how the skill actually works? Please. I see a pattern now, so don't worry, you are free to enjoy the usual melee circlejerk.
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    Galveira Vorfeed
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    Ragnarok
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by W00by View Post
    Snip.
    In general, caster uptime (for the non-SMN) is harder to maintain perfectly and the penalty is higher. Positionals cost 40ish potency, losing a Fire IV or a Picto cast is 400 thru 600 potency.
    And we all seem to agree that cast bars are a defining trait of casters that should not be removed. I, myself, also agree with this.
    I don't understand why positionals, which are easier to score and have a much smaller penalty when you miss them, invoke such ire.

    (I agree with you btw, making a point off what you stated)
    Either way, I don't think it's a problem if a fight is designed in a way where you can only get 95% of your positionals, or have 1/2s of caster downtime.
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